Previously broken back and new to yoga

Previously broken back and new to yoga2013-02-04T21:07:03+00:00
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  • lynnmarieg
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    Hi.

    I am new to yoga, but am loving hot yoga so far (one week). I am 48 years young, in good physical condition. I do cardio and weights 3 times a week on average. I tried yoga primarily for flexibility, but am enjoying other benefits as well. I do concentrate on my form.

    My question is related to my back. I have always made fitness a priority because my back was broken 30 years ago. (I was temporarily paralyzed from the waist down for about 30 days when it happened). L2 thru L5 were all broken. L4 was completely compressed, L5; partially. They healed that way so they are still compressed. Thanks to fitness, and great sports medicine doctors advice early on, I have never had surgery, and have led a normal life, doing things they said I may never be able to do, including delivering 3 healthy children. I was also warned that I may be in a wheelchair by 40. At 48, I do more than many half my age. But, I lack flexibility…I cannot do the back bend, specifically in the camel. Is this something I should attempt to keep trying, or is that area of my back which is naturally fused preventing me from doing it? I will push myself as far as I can, but I also listen to my body, and it has been telling me to stop, so I do. However, since I am new to yoga, I am not sure if it my body or my fear talking to me…:) Please let me know your thoughts…Thanks.

    Cyberry
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    Hi Lynnm,

    It’s seldom that I’m touched by a (seemingly random) post, and I just wanted to say: I salute you.

    I cannot answer your question, but what I can say is that you’re clearly asking the right questions.

    May your yoga journey be a happy one.

    C

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Lynn

    An amazing story. Thank you for sharing it with us. I think that we need to explore what happens in each of the other backbends to know whether it is fear, physical limitation or a combination of both.

    There could be a bit of toing and froing as questions are asked and answers come back and schedules are fit into and experiences are had.

    The main backbends are as follows:
    >> Half Moon Backbend
    >> Standing Bow
    >> Cobra, Locust, Full Locust, Floor Bow
    >> Fixed Firm
    >> Camel

    Back flexibility (and other factors) affects poses such as
    >> Awkward, eagle oh and many others including sit up and paschimottanasana poses.

    So in the meantime can we start with the backbends? I want a sense of how you manage your poses and where your challenges are. Please break them down one by one and be as specific as you can.

    I have no sense of your abilities or even your technique. I also have no idea if the limitation is ONLY in the lower spine. For instance, what happens in your neck and mid back in each of those poses? At what point do you feel fear in that pose? At what stage are you at in each pose (ie progress compared to ‘ideal’ pose)? At what point do you have to come out of the pose if that ever happens?

    Possibly it’s best to deal with one pose at a time if there happens to be too much information. We’ll see!

    Nice to hear that you always listen to your body. So yes, stop when you need to.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    lynnmarieg
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    Thank you C, and Thank you Gabrielle for your time. I believe that as I get older, yoga will be a saving grace for me and my back. As I mentioned, I always focused on the strength, but in that, I have dropped the ball on the flexibility. (Oh, I am 5’8″ and about 125 lbs)

    I can tell you that I have now taken 4 hot yoga classes. I believe that each one has gotten a little better in some respect (some in the actual stretch, and some in just awareness of correcting the pose).

    As far as the back-bend poses go:
    >Half Moon Backbend-I actually feel pretty comfortable here with my hands up. No stability issues, but I don’t get a lot of bend…with my biceps by my ears, my index finger probably points just shy of a 45 degree angle.
    >Standing Bow-In Standing Bow, I seem to lack stability (balance). Although I can actually extend my back leg so that my foot is approximately even with my shoulder, I cannot stay there for long. I actually think it’s my ankles in this case. I also feel the stretch in my hamstrings which seem to be pretty tight, so it’s not bothering my back at all.
    >Cobra, Locust, Full Locust and Floor Bow-Pretty comfortable with Cobra, I would say I am in the middle of the pack when I look around the room, and probably about the same with Locust and Full Locust; but I would love to get more extension and stretch here especially. Floor Bow is actually not too bad at all.
    >The Fixed Firm and The Camel are the ones that concern me. Initially, I only went to my elbows in Fixed Firm, I did however in the last class go all the way to the floor, but didn’t stay there long, and came back to my elbows. In Camel, I place my hands on my lower back, I reached back for my foot with one hand, and it didn’t feel like I could make the transition, so I stopped.

    I have trouble not being where I want to be physically, which is why I push myself, and when I look around the room, I want to be better…better than I am, better than the rest; it is my competitive nature because I know in the long run, this is what got me to walk again and kept me healthy. So, I am probably premature in even asking these questions, because even in four classes I have felt some slight improvement. I guess I just need to know that I won’t do any harm, and if it is or isn’t possible to get to that point of flexibility so that I don’t cause harm.

    If you think it’s just a matter of time, I will stay the course, and take any advice on precautions you might add. Also, so far I have only tried Hot Yoga, if there is something else you can recommend, I would love to hear it. I can check back in with you from time to time and fill you in on progress.

    Thank you again. Lynn

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
    Forum Owner
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    Hi Lynn

    So that’s great. You’ve come here right at the beginning of your experience. I really don’t like to do this because this is a free forum and I don’t like to solicit business in this way, but I do honestly believe that with your good body awareness and your wish to improve your practice that you would do well to consider buying my book called Hot Yoga MasterClass.

    You are so new to your practice. You have an opportunity here to take responsibility and do things right for your body right from the get-go. There are things that many studios do in the course of a yoga class that actually could be detrimental to your back.

    In the book you’ll find milestones as to where and when and how you should move beyond where you are. And you’ll find hundreds of photos of the actual techniques of each of the poses AND more importantly to you, hundreds of photos of the mistakes you are likely to make (or be taught to make, or that just happen because of the sheer enormity of instruction that you receive that the mind cannot possibly process). And on top of that the book will explain in words and often with photographs how to fix the mistakes.

    Finally before I get back to writing (my new book) I would be remiss if I didn’t ask you when was the last time you had radiographic records made of your back and what the people looking after you say about, or recommend to you about physical movement and limitations? What they say doesn’t have to be the way it should be, but as you can see here, this is just me on the other end of the globe online just trying to interpret your words, your body, your practice through each other’s filters.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    PS depending on your learning preferences, there are many options when it comes to my resources: The free forum, the manual, DVDs and even more highly detailed tutorials (and more).

    Oh, I almost forgot. I also recommend you Take a Look at the Free Videos on yoga techniques for some yoga and body basics that really do make a difference.

    lynnmarieg
    Participant
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    Gabrielle,

    Thank you. I am considering your book. I have watched a couple of the free videos and like what I learn so far-especially the one on strengthening your core. It’s funny you mention about what I may learn (or learn wrong) in classes because I have had four classes with 4 different teachers and they are all so different (5th one will be tonight with yet again a different teacher). I’m not sure how much I trust their experience yet, and I believe I am going to a reputable place (a fairly large chain).

    I have had x-rays about every 10 years, most recently about 4 years ago. Ironically, one tech once said he couldn’t believe I was walking. The spinal specialist literally told me to keep doing whatever it was I was doing because there was no change in the x-rays from 10 years prior. He said that meant if I was sitting around eating bob-bons or if I was running marathons, either way just keep doing it…which just goes to show sometimes your intuition is better listened to than anything else…lol. Glad I didn’t listen to the doctors 30 years ago.

    I do tend to lean toward sports medicine docs who will allow me to do more, and that is my advice for anyone. I do not like it when a doctor tells me I “can’t” do something. I lose faith in them for not knowing me enough and tend to try to prove them wrong.

    Before I posted the original post on here, I read one where the doc told someone to do pilates instead of yoga…if that were my doctor and without a good reason, I probably would not have gone back.

    My fault, and the downside of this is that I won’t even go to a doc unless I feel something is seriously wrong (maybe I live in denial of ever having a bad back)…but it has gotten me this far.

    So I guess I sent the questions to you because you seem very experienced, I like what you have offered to the public, and because I want to prevent *having* to go to the doctor in the first place. I hope that makes sense.

    I am also an information junkie…I learn as much as I can about whatever I am involved in or interested in…and the internet has been a huge source on info on yoga…which could be good and bad depending on how much common sense you have to weed through it all.

    Thanks again…..and Namaste 🙂

    lynnmarieg
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    Good News…sometimes patience and instinct answer our own questions (and a little reinforcement from you). I was determined to fight the fear and tonight I was able to do the Fixed Firm and the Camel. I could tell I was pushing it a little in the Fixed Firm because my legs were tight, but I was slow and steady. In the Camel, I really took my time and lowered my hands to my heels, pushed my hips forward and looked at the ceiling…it felt so good (emotionally)! I even had a little more balance in Standing Bow 🙂 So I will go with time, practice, and patience…thank you so much for responding so quickly. I do appreciate it…you were very helpful. Namaste.:-)

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
    Forum Owner
    Post count: 3048

    Hi Lynn

    Start searching around the forum. There are some answers in there already. Eg, what to do with the issue in Fixed Firm.

    You’re doing really well after only 5 classes. I just recommend you do some homework regarding the ideas and questions I have already flagged simply because your injury is one not to be taken lightly.

    Fantastic progress

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

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