The Beginnings of Heat Stroke?

The Beginnings of Heat Stroke?2010-07-09T17:13:24+00:00
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  • yoginita
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    (I searched for “goosebumps” before posting this, but the conversation string that included that–“dehydration”–didn’t answer my question.)

    I’ve been practicing power, vinyasa, and ashtanga yoga 4-6 times a week for six years now. Six months ago I added Bikram to my practice. (I realize that religious Bikram practitioners can be horrified that I use it as a supplement to my “regular practice” and my apologies for that.) I practice power yoga M-W and then do Bikram Th-S, taking Sundays off, and I’ve been thrilled with how, for me, the two practices compliment each other.

    I’m the yogini that pushes herself to the max in every single class (which means I’ve been [gently] sore for six years!) and have left a few Bikram classes feeling like I need to vomit or feeling a little dizzy, but when that happens, I recognize that I need to back off a little or do a better job hydrating throughout the day. I am contentious when it comes to taking care of myself before and after classes. Bikram is new and different, but I am good at listening to my body (that’s a part of “being present” that I’ve learned to embrace).

    Anyhow, yesterday the room felt especially hot and though my body did its usual obscene sweating–I always look like I just got out of a shower!–after a while I started getting what I can only describe as cold flashes. Every few minutes I would get chills and goosebumps. This happened from about Half Tortoise through the class’ conclusion. This is the first time that’s happened. I did a good job hydrating throughout the day; however, admittedly, I did a crummy job making sure I ate throughout the day.

    Sorry this is such a long description for a question, but I figured some kind of background might be helpful. Thoughts?

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Megan

    May I ask if all your yoga experiences are in a hot room? Yes, both styles do complement each other! And NO, I will not accept your apology 😉 simply because none is necessary!

    I must say that I have some thoughts swirling around trying to crystallize about your comments about ‘pushing yourself to the max in every class’ and about ‘needing to vomit or feeling a little dizzy’. Whether it’s heat stroke or not, I will wait to hear the details confirming the hours in a hot room and whether it’s 6 days per week.

    It may not just have to do with hydration. It could also have something to do with nutrition.

    There is possibly something that needs to be addressed with your approach to nurturing yourself. I would like to sit with this for a bit longer and also ask you to comment on my response to maybe give me some more insight into what’s really going on.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    yoginita
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    Thanks for your quick reply!

    I’ve only been practicing in a hot room for 6 months, but this goosebumpy/chills thing is brand new yesterday. After/during most classes–though I feel fatigued and a little breathless–I don’t experience any physiological abnormalities like yesterday. And my power classes aren’t in a hot room–about 78 degrees Fahrenheit. So I’m only in a hot room for 3 consecutive days a week (4 if I don’t take Sunday off).

    Regarding my “pushing to the max” comment: unfortunately I’m not the kind to do a good job of taking it easy when my body is telling me to. My trial for the 6 years I’ve been practicing has been to find ahimsa in my practice. For me, my yoga progresses like this: asana first, leading into pranayama, and the two birthing a meditation. I know various hatha schools prefer the order to be different–say, pranayama first or meditation first–but I practice for asana. The meditative effects of my practice come from the buzz I get from throwing myself at the asanas full-force. (An optional second vinyasa? Hah. Not optional, silly!) Now, when it comes to Bikram I’m a little better at taking care of myself; I lay down if I’m starting to feel dizzy, and if I’m starting to lose control of my breath I back off. That’s why I thought yesterday’s corporeal reaction was a little strange; I wasn’t pushing myself too hard. The room, however, felt abnormally hot.

    As for feeling dizzy sometimes and feeling like I need to vomit after a class or two, I actually consider that a good thing. Bizarre? Probably. I’ve been fitness-focused my whole life, and, after exercise, I know that I gave it all I had if I feel like I need to regurgitate whatever’s left in my gut (though I never do get to the actual vomiting stage). For me, it’s a sick sort of pleasure I get out of a little nausea after a work-out. And that’s what my yoga is for me: a workout that I’ve developed a sort of addition to which has helped me get better at living a life off the mat.

    Gosh, I have no idea if that was at all hepful. It’s late and I’m babbling. I don’t even know if I’ve forgotten to answer any questions . . .

    davidf15x
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    Gabrielle’s word is gold but I am happy to relate some of my experience knowing that these matters are always individual so only part of what I say may relate to your circumstance.

    I also struggle with the heat and I do notice that I have different heat reactions even when the heat is precisely the same from one class to the next–so the thermostat is consistent–our bodies change from class to class and our prep, sleep, blood pressue and level of hydration all have an impact.

    So assuming normal electrolytes in your blood (no low levels)and a good low healthy BP–focus on how you hydrate. Oftentimes, I drink plenty of water, plus a coconut water, plus either a sports drink (Powerade) or an EmergenC. But I have an additonal suggestion based upon my own body and my experience with the heat. Despite the fact my sodium, pottassium, etc are dead on perfect–I normally take one salt tablet before class and sometimes even one afterward. The ones I buy from CVS cost about $7 for a huge bottle of tablets and this is a treatment used by runners and other athletes for heat prostration. One tablet can make a huge difference.

    Therefore, get a good read on your blood pressure, mind your sleep and come to class peppy or don’t come, hydrate even in the overkill range with not simply water or rice drink but with coconut water, Powerade or Gatorade, or Emergen C–and then try a salt tablet and see if it makes a difference.

    But listen the the expert, Gabrielle, first and foremost.

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Megan

    David adds some great value in his post. Just wondering how you’re going now that several weeks have passed. Your approach to your yoga is a fascinating one. It does seem as though there is a lot of thought involved regarding accomplishment perhaps attached to ego and getting it right.

    Still I can appreciate that the benefits are great if you can ‘do’ your asana with precision. It’s what’s attached to the accomplishment that could be deciphered for you. I am not here to analyze you – you have done a great job at recognizing your own stuff. Your practice does appear to be being approached as an athlete would their sport.

    Who am I to say that is wrong? I would however love to hear how you go by being more gentle on yourself in the process. Is it just a mindset change that could be called for? So Megan, what will it take to be more gentle and allowing? You obviously have the technique, you can do the asana, what will it take to do the yoga?

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    PS I am looking forward to hearing your response to my post, no matter what that brings up for you. I have no attachment to being right here, just throwing something into the ring for consideration!

    CharlotteAnnette
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    Hi guys! I just signed up for the site when I saw this thread because its the exact problem I have been having!! I have been doing bikram on and off for 5 years, but I just started my first 60 day challenge about 20 days ago. I have only made it 14 times, but the point for me was to get myself to go more often, not to be perfect.

    ANYWAY, same here. Goosebumps. Cold flashes. usually start when we get to the floor series, sometimes with the first savasana.

    I always used to be fine with a nalgene bottle full of water, but now I feel like I have been sweating more than before (is that normal??) and am headachy and wound up after class. I have tried a coconut water and that made me feel better briefly, but by the end of class I was exhausted again in a bad way.

    WHAT’S going on?? I don’t want to just start chugging down gatorade or coconut water because I don’t want to end up gaining weight, but I want my practice to be enjoyable and doable. Where is the balance? Is there something I am missing?

    bonmar
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    How much water/electrolyte are you having in the hours before class?

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Charlotte

    It does sound – at least on the surface – as an electrolyte issue! Thanks Bonnie for the questions.

    Coconut water is being touted as the be all and end all in electrolyte replacement. Is this really true? I have just spoken to someone doing hot yoga 1-2 times a day taking FRESH coconut water after every class. Not the heat treated stuff in a tetra pack. Now that’s GOT to be better wouldn’t you agree?

    Well she’s had terrible issues with shakes, and tingling feelings. Sound familiar?

    Go and get some good quality sea salt and consider taking about 1/2 tsp per day anyway you like. Buy some electrolyte tabs if you really want to. Gatorade is an expensive way to get sugar, Na and Cl and K and almost nothing else (haven’t checked lately so correct me if I’m wrong).

    David (above) mentions this:

    The ones I buy from CVS cost about $7 for a huge bottle of tablets and this is a treatment used by runners and other athletes for heat prostration. One tablet can make a huge difference.

    See what happens but DEFINITELY keep a close eye on what’s happening.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    CharlotteAnnette
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    BonMar, I am having about 32 ounces of water plus a vitamin water before class.

    Gabrielle, I picked up some sea salt and put it in my butternut squash soup last night instead of regular kosher salt. Hopefully a couple of days of this will make a difference!

    davidf15x
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    Charlotte, I need to repeat what I said previously. If the class really feels way hot and you are getting a bad reaction–there is a good chance you are not well rested and are too stressed for the class. Yoga is great to relieve stress but you need to be in the swing of stressing and releasing. For example, if you are not in the hot yoga habit and you are not sleeping well and having a lot of stress–you might have a very bad class. Next, you may need more hydration than what you have reported. Take note of how much you sweat in a “good” class–that is your standard. I happen to sweat profusely so for me–I need to really drench the towel to know my body is reacting correctly. Right *for you* is the key. Fluid must be absorbed so if you are taking little and peeing it right out, your body is not rested and ready for yoga. Coconut water is fine, emergen C is fine, gatorade is fine, vitamin water is fine. Take care to notice that the fluid is actually being absorbed and Gabrielle has it right–my point here is that one salt tablet can really make a difference and a splash of lemon juice with your vitamin water will push it into your system a bit better.
    Hot yoga is a blessing for high stress people but do not try to be superman (or superwoman). Hydrate slowly throughout the day and very close to close–take an additional good bit of support. Add a splash of sea salt or lemon juice. If you are hydrated, you should be sweating BEFORE the class. You know you are good to go if you are really sweating after the initial warm up. Don’t risk your health by not paying attention!! Good sleep AND hydration are both keys to a good experience.

    CharlotteAnnette
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    david, that is really good advice. I just lost my job and haven’t been sleeping well, so I think that probably has something to do with it. I am going to start keeping track of when I feel cold and goosebumps and what happened in my life at that time.

    Great advice everyone, I really appreciate it!!!

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