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I only started practicing Bikram yoga at the end of March… and last night, I completed my 60 day challenge – 60 classes in 60 days.
When I started, I was thinking that there was no way I was going to pick up my foot in standing head to knee like that crazy lady on the podium was telling me to! And fixed firm was pure torture for my ankles!
I’m not exactly sure when my ankles started to open up, but they’re pretty flat now on the kneeling postures.
It took me…
2 months to begin to get my fingers under my foot on standing head to knee…
2.5 months to touch my toes for the first time with the situp…
And I have seen a LOT of improvement in many of the other poses.
My jacket size has increased from 52″ to 54″.
When I went to the optometrist for my eye exam a couple of weeks ago, he asked me if I had been exercising a lot. I told him about my yoga practice and he said that both of my eyes had improved by the same amount. Apparently, he has seen this happen to some patients when they have significant improvements in their baseline blood glucose levels. I actually needed a weaker prescription for my glasses!
I have only lost a couple of pounds, but have lost a LOT of “inches” all over.
I really had to drag myself to some of the classes, but got over “the hump” somewhere between the 20 and 30 class mark. I missed 4 days and had to do 4 “doubles”, but they weren’t as bad as I thought they would be. I did 4 classes in 2 days a couple of weekends ago.
The first month, I had a LOT of rib pain from the chest expansion – especially from standing bow. And then I developed some different rib pain from the compression of the head to knee poses. And, finally, this past week, I’ve been dealing with a painful ingrown toenail that has prevented me from doing parts 2 and 3 of awkward pose.
I’m still surprised at how sore I am after all these classes… I guess I’m continuing to work deeper still in every class. Despite the soreness, I feel GREAT and plan to keep going… maybe to 90 and more..
Holy catfish! Good for you to take on a 60-day challenge after only just starting this yoga practice! But how wise of you!
Some people do this yoga two or three times a week for years and never make too much headway, as it isn’t often enough for their body to see great change.
I just finished a 100-day challenge and the subtle changes in my body were amazing. I agree, it is difficult to get there every day and a lot of your life has to be sacrificed, but it sure is worth it!
Then to go back to a regular, every-other-practice, I have kept the benefits from the 100 days! I forget what Bikram calls that in his first book – cumulative or something. When you have significant gains, even when you cut back on the times per week you go, you don’t lose all the ground you’ve gained.
Anyway, congrats again on your achievement!
Some people do this yoga two or three times a week for years and never make too much headway, as it isn’t often enough for their body to see great change.
It took me a while to get to this – but that is a very insightful comment Bonnie.
As Bikram says in his first book – (I paraphrase) – “Come very day for two months and I’ll give you a new body”.
As I understand it, this is what led to the original “60-day challenge” (Bikram did says take one day a week off – very important for recovery).
We often say “go AS MUCH as you can in the early days” (actually I often say “take your pain early” haha) as after that, a 3 x weekly maintenance program may be enough for most people.
If you really want breakthroughs/life changes, you gotta go 5+ times/week – but once the body is transformed, you can trade for years on your newly acquired “yoga credit” (I know, I’m living proof!).
Great worked Torqued – nice to read those stats too, thanks for taking the time to provide them.
Namaste,
Robert
I finished up 90 classes in 90 days on Wednesday. Going to try for 120 in 120.
It seems I’ve become somewhat of a minor celebrity at the studio – especially since I only started my yoga practice a little over 4 months ago. They’re pointing me out to brand new students and they usually look like this :bug: when they hear how many days I have done. Even some of the instructors are surprised/impressed that I keep showing up every day. I’m fortunate that I live just a few miles from the studio.
I’m still seeing continuous improvement, but some poses still aren’t pretty! :red: Although, I did surprise myself the other day because my Half-Moon and Triangle looked pretty nice!
To get in a “day of rest”, I “double back” on the weekends… I usually take the 8:15pm class Monday thru Thursday, the 6:15pm class on Friday, and then the 8:00am or 10:00am class on Saturday and Sunday. That seems to be working pretty well. I had to get in a few doubles due to missing some days.
I’ve been challenged this past month with an ingrown toenail, though. My doctor didn’t want to cut it out and we treated it with steroids and antibiotics. I’m finally getting back to where I can attempt parts 2 and 3 of Awkward Pose.
I’m also still having a little trouble with my sore ribs, but I’m back on my medication that should start calming that down soon.
I had another round of bloodwork drawn last week for my doctor – will be interesting to see what it shows. My last bloodwork prior was at the very beginning of my Bikram practice.
The 1st 30 days was spent working through a lot of the mental challenges of going every day.
The 2nd 30 days was more focused on some of the physical challenges – like trying not to sit out too many poses and working more on getting the form right.
The 3rd 30 days, I’ve been looking more closely at my practice for things like:
-how does what and when I eat affect my yoga practice
-how does my body respond to different levels of heat and humidity in the room
-experimenting more with fluid balance, nutrients, and electrolyte supplementation for better stamina/performance in class
-paying much more attention to form and individual parts of the poses and trying to work deeper into themStill haven’t lost much weight – only a few lbs, but I have lost inches.
I didn’t put it in the first post, but part of the reason for me starting Bikram Yoga was because my doctor yelled at me. My weight, blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. were going the “wrong way” and he said I could either do something about it or take a handful of wonderful pills for the rest of my life. %-P I actually got started on a low dose of blood pressure medicine – I would love to be off of it by the end of the year. That, and my 3.5 year old daughter are my main motivation. I’m doing it for myself, but the real drive is that I want to be healthy so I can be around for my daughter as long as possible.
I also have the chronic health problems of psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis and the yoga has done of very good job of helping to moderate my symptoms.
Wow, Robert, your hard work is VERY impressive!
I finished up my 100-day challenge in June and I remember how fabulous I felt. I have arthritis in various places and did not feel any pains anywhere, everything was loose and wonderful. Since going to an every-other-day practice, I was just thinking today that I feel niggles in various places from various activities and I’m thinking I need to get back to my daily practice. So, August 1, I’ll be back at it, daily, except for a few days holidays here and there that are already planned.
I wish my husband’s doctor would “yell” at him and get him going! Western doctors seem always too happy just to hand out pills and send people on their way. Have you got your significant other interested in the yoga yet?
Bonnie:
Thanks. It’s funny, but it doesn’t feel very impressive…. I still have a LONG way to go in most of the poses. Also, I guess it’s because I made it a lifestyle change and yoga is just something that I do every day now. 😉
Actually, my wife started Bikram Yoga about a year and a half ago. She usually goes 3-4 times/week to the 4:30pm class. They don’t have an 8:15pm class on Fridays, so I’ll pick up our daughter at daycare and we’ll go to the yoga studio and do the “kid swap” when my wife gets out of class and I’ll take the 6:30pm class. The staff and other students find it amusing/interesting that we do the kid swap so that we can both get class in.
Such an interesting thread…
I did 3x per week my first three years, even though there seemed to be certain implicit (and explicit) pressure to go more frequently. Given everything else I had going on in my life at the time, I was more than content being a “garden variety” yogi. I certainly appreciated what the yoga brought to my life.
Something shifted in year four and I upped my schedule to 4 to 5x per week – and my practice improved immensely. I ended up going to teacher training in year 5 and today really consider it a joyful meditation – regardless of how i may be feeling class to class 😉
We all travel our own path and I really don’t believe there is a right or wrong way. My “slowga” approach wouldn’t be intense enough for some, and others’ beginner marathons may have burned me out. I think the beauty of the practice is that it can be what each of us needs it to be today, and can evolve right along with us. And that’s a wonderful thing.
I made it to 100 classes in 100 days on Saturday. Going to #102 tonight.
Just to be clear, I’m not suggesting that everyone do what I’m doing. I have several issues that I’m trying to fix and the yoga seems to be slowly fixing them… so I keep going…
I finished up 120 classes in 120 days last night.
My psoriatic arthritis is similar to rheumatoid arthritis… and it has been working on my joints for years (and not in a good way!) Over these past five months that I’ve been doing yoga, my arthritis has randomly decided to attack my ankles, knees, hips, spine, ribs, shoulders, and elbows at various times.
I’m pretty amazed at how much PAIN FREE range of motion I’ve been able to reclaim in my joints. Millimeter by millimeter, I’m continuing to make progress in the poses.
Wow, Torqued, that’s very impressive! I too notice how much the yoga keeps the arthritis at bay. I think for me, having arthritis, the yoga is not optional, it is a necessity!
When I get lazy, I get sore! Thanks for the inspiration!
WEll, I am really impressed. I have knee, ankle, back arthritic pain. Back bens actually aggrivated my lower back pain, so had to reduce that. But, I a so inspried that I’m going to try and get going a lot more than I have.
You guys are awesome!
Another quick update:
Finished up 180 classes in 180 days about a week and a half ago…
People tell me that it looks like I’ve lost 10+ pounds, but my weight is actually UP a few pounds… I can tell that I’ve added muscle to my shoulders, back, and legs… and I have continued losing inches…
Recent improvements:
– Able to fully interlace fingers in Eagle Pose
– Half-Moon looks pretty good – can get my hip beyond my ankle
– Able to touch knees together at the beginning of Standing Bow
– Butt much closer to the ground in Fixed Firm
– Elbows much higher off the chest in Pranayama Breathing
– Finally able to get elbow “in front” of knee on Half Spine Twist instead of “on top” of knee
– Finally able to get my foot to touch the floor (but it’s not flat yet) with both hips on the floor in Half Spine Twist
– Getting close to being able to attempt to interlock fingers on Standing Head to Knee
– Can now grab both feet in Floor Bow fairly easily. (I could barely grab 1 foot at a time when I started)
– Significantly increased torso stability in Blowing in Firm Pose
– Significantly increased grip strengthI’ll still keep going every day as it seems to be working for me.
You are amazing, Robert!!! I love the list of improvements. That kind of attention, that kind of tuning into your body is obviously paving the way for many more improvements to come.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂WOW, Robert!!! 🙂
Way to go! I love to hear about others determination, self-awareness, and successes! I’m on day 13 of my 1st 60 day challenge. I’m loving all the changes I am seeing…thanks for inspiring me!
200 classes in 200 days finished last night. 🙂
I am officially in awe! :coolsmile:
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂Finished up 240 classes in 240 days last week. Started on my 5th consecutive 60-day challenge. Christmas Eve and Christmas day was the first time since mid-May that I’ve missed 2 days in a row. I don’t think I’ll be doing that again if I can help it! Because of my arthritis issues, my body really needs the yoga and the heat every day. I have not had to take any of my prescription medications for psoriasis and arthritis in over 3 months and my skin has not worsened any in that time. Have made some really good progress in standing bow, half tortoise, and have seen a significant increase in ankle/achilles tendon flexibility. I’m now usually the last person down on the 3rd part of awkward pose and have added enough muscle to my legs that it’s now making it difficult to keep my toes and heels together in the standing poses!
If I can keep from getting sick, I think I’m going to try for 365 in 365.
Hi, Torqued. Yes, I missed four days around the holidays and started to notice my knuckles getting creaky. I need it every day too for arthritis. I’d much rather do yoga than take pills! I WISH I was the last person down in Awkward, I still can’t get down as low and I’d like to be, or as other people are.
There’s just nothing bad about this yoga, is there? It’s all good.
Torqued and Bonmar, you guys are an inspriation. I’m an older guy, and have some problems in knees and ankles, etc. I missed a few days over the holidays due to travel, etc and man do I notice it. I’m no where near as dedicated as you 2 are though, wish I were.
Congratulations!!!!!!!
Another update: 27000 minutes = 450 hours over 300 days = 5 back-to-back Bikram Yoga 60 Day Challenges!!
I know that there is some debate about taking days off from the yoga, but I think you need to listen to your body for cues on how much yoga is right for you. In my case, with my arthritis, if I miss 1 day, it’s uncomfortable once I get back to the yoga… if I miss 2 days in a row, it hurts when I get back to the yoga plus my joints start aching and getting stiff… I have only missed 2 days in a row 3 times since May 1, 2009. Obviously, I had to throw in some “doubles” here and there…
So, for me, the yoga is a “daily treatment” that *my* body needs for *my* problems.
There have been plenty of days that I did *not* want to be there! But I made myself go. English bulldog determination!!! 😉 And there have been days where I spent half or more of the class lying on my mat… On those days, I just try to do as much of the yoga as I can. Even on the days where I have felt that I was going to die right on my mat, I know that my body is still being healed by and getting the benefits of the yoga.
My 2nd 60-day challenge started out as a bit of stubbornness just to see if I could do it… but then I saw all of the things that the yoga was “fixing” in my body… my attitude now is that I still have a lot of problems, so I’ll just keep going to see how many problems the yoga will fix.
No major breakthroughs in practice… just a lot of slow, steady progress. I’ve been working hard on standing bow, triangle, and half-tortoise and have made a lot of very good progress in all 3. I was able to finally hold 1 set of the 2nd part of awkward pose for the first time this past week. That one is extremely hard for me due to my size/weight and bad ankles.
My yoga teacher asked me after class last night where my “finish line” was… I said that I didn’t know and didn’t really have one at this point and explained about my arthritis and why I was in class every day. My wife later suggested that I should set my coffin as my finish line. LOL! I rather like that idea! Let’s just hope I don’t really die on my mat anytime soon! 😉
Hi Robert
Another incredible milestone! Good for you… What you’re doing is working. You need the movement to keep you feeling great and experience life pain-free. It’s become a part of your life and there is no finish line. You seem empowered by that.
So often in hot yoga, people think that it’s an all or none equation. If you do need rest, it doesn’t mean you have to stop the yoga, it may mean that you do 30 minutes at home on a couple of occasions per week, rather than committing to the 2+ hours of yoga etc that it takes to devote to a studio practice. I wonder what you feel when I say that to you! It could make the difference on those days where you can’t give it your all. It could be something you work into your schedule that creates the break from the intensity without giving up your elixir – the yoga itself.
I hope you don’t mind the input. There are going to be reasons in everyone’s lives where they can’t get to a studio or to a heated room. There are definitely poses you can do and enjoy the benefits of and keep up your yoga credit.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂Gabrielle:
The problem is that my body needs the heat and humidity to loosen my joints. There was a week where the humidifier at my studio was not working correctly and the humidity was maybe half of what it was supposed to be. They tried cranking up the heat to compensate, but I didn’t get the “heat penetration” into my joints… that was a miserable week as I watched (and felt) my joints start to slowly seize up again despite still going and attempting all of the poses/stretching.
There are days where I back off a bit on the intensity and skip sets here or there depending on what’s going on with my body, energy level, etc… I’ll have to do the best I can with some travel this spring and summer… but if there’s a studio nearby, I’m going to find a way to get there!
It does take 2 hours every day and I’m fortunate that I only live a few miles from the studio… If I wasn’t doing the yoga, I’d probably be in front of the TV or in front of my computer… and, surprisingly, I don’t miss either one of those much at all. The difference in the pain and quality of life improvements over this time last year is easily worth a couple of hours of my time every night. It’s 90 minutes of “medicine” for me that is *much* more preferable to the pills, injections, etc. that I have had to use in the past.
Fortunately, most people don’t have the problems that I do and wouldn’t need to do the yoga every day… and I’m not going to tell people that they have to go every day to get benefits. But, if you have problems like mine, going every day is possible and you *may* get fantastic results doing it. 😉
If it ain’t broke, don’t break it! Sounds perfectly fine to me. Hopefully those times when you can’t get to yoga are going to be very few and far between and you can get your daily fix.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂I did it!
April 30th was my 367th class in 365 days! I only missed 2 days in a row 4 times the whole year. I had occasional single days missed, but made all of them up with doubles.
Still making incremental progress in my poses, but the most recent significant progress has been me more consistently (~75% of the time) being able to get into, hold, and get out of the 2nd part of awkward pose – only took me a year to do that! For me, that position is more a problem of balance instead of strength. I have recently been able to get back on my elbows in fixed firm about 20% of the time. I know that this won’t mean much to people reading this, but when I’m on the 2nd row, I can finally get my fingers/eyes beyond the row of lights at the back of the room in the back bend in half moon.
With the arthritis that I’ve had for 27 years, the improvement in my joints and flexibility has been amazing! I still have a *long* way to go to get to the full expression in most of the poses, but the changes the yoga has had on my body and my body’s problems has been incredible. I still have not had to take any of my prescription medication for my arthritis/psoriasis since October.
My “yoga year” has been the hardest thing that I’ve ever done. It’s been an incredible journey and I’ve learned a LOT!
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