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in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10494
Hi Billy & Gabrielle —
I’m interested to hear how you view my journey and how you choose to go forward.These past 2 months, I’ve been lazy. I’ve continued my yoga practice — now only about 4 times a week — and have skipped the boring machines, the forearm planks and the pilates. Yoga has been a mix of Bikram and vinyasa style classes, mostly Bikram, and I’ve been doing some Zumba and some digging in the yard with a pick, etc.
I haven’t met with Elli — perhaps I’m embarrassed by my lack of diligence.
Two months ago, I was concerned that the hernia area seemed squishy and weak, and I believed that I’d wasted my time delaying surgery… I suspected at that time that I’d probably eventually get the mesh surgery. I had no real pain, but occasionally, with a full digestive tract, I could sense the weakness.
Now, after the 2 months, I realize that I’ve almost completely forgotten that I have a hernia! The area seems stronger, without even an occasional bulging, and I don’t have a sensation of weakness. When I probe with finger pressure, I can sense that the area is only slightly weaker than the opposite side!
So, this is quite the turnaround!
My current thinking is that the cause of my hernia was the trumpet playing, not the yoga practice. I haven’t modified any of my yoga practice except for one thing — when I transition in and out of headstand, I don’t hold a pike (straight leg) position anymore. I miss the trumpet playing, but my neighbors are much happier.
Billy, please keep me posted regarding your decision and progress. I’ll be anxious to learn what the surgery is like and how the recovery time affects your activities. Is the surgery as trivial as the doctors say it is?
John
in reply to: Hot yoga causing high blood pressure #10386Wow! You’ve really been attentive… to each of my posts! Thank you.
I agree — the frequency of those readings was excessive and even obsessive! But, that was merely my attempt to learn about the variability of the BP-testing machines. That’s in the past! My conclusion was that changes of 10-20 points don’t mean much — a meaningful shift seems to be at least 30 points.
So, now, I check my BP only once or twice a week… when I’m thinking of going to the Bikram studio (too much humidity and 105F). I consider how I feel, and I choose a different studio if my systolic number is near or above 140. You may think that’s excessive, but it helps me enjoy the hot practice.
Again, many thanks —
Johnin reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10384Yes, Gabrielle, I should schedule a meeting with Elli to tell her my progress/plateau. Perhaps she will tell me whether she considers my present condition a “cure” and whether she believes that I can make further progress. It has been several weeks since I have spoken to her.
Perhaps I’m accepting an outcome that is short of what can be achieved. As of now, I’m believing the standard medical conclusion that a hernia is a tearing of tissue that can’t be healed by exercise — apparently, I’ve strengthened the adjacent muscles but the tear is still present.
I’ll meet with Elli and post a report.
John
in reply to: Hot yoga causing high blood pressure #10383Thanks, Gabrielle, for your concern… and chastisement…
But, perhaps you’ve misunderstood.
I’m saying that I am checking my BP only once or twice a week, when I’m on my way to a crazy-hot-humid Bikram class. Does that really seem excessive? I’m almost 68 years old. If my local Bikram-TM studio ownner would turn down the humidity a notch, the 105F wouldn’t phase me at all, but the humidity is so high that my sweating gives me absolutely no cooling…
To be honest, the BP test on the way to the Bikram studio is only to make me feel better — my sister and nephew who are nurses have told me to stay away from hot yoga altogether, and the BP test makes me feel as though I’m not totally ignoring their well-meaning concern and advice.
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10379Hi Gabrielle —
It’s been another month, and perhaps I’ve reached a plateau…
I’ve discontinued the machine exercises and the forearm plank, and the pilates classes — not because they don’t help, but because they’re boring and because I’m getting lazy. I prefer my mix of yoga classes.
My conclusion is that I have not actually cured my inquinal hernia. Although there is no swelling or bulge in my abdomen, there is a weakness that I can feel when I press that area. And, sometimes when my bladder (and occasionally my intestines) are stretched to full capacity, I can feel a very slight discomfort in the herniated area — but it’s not painful or at all bothersome.
So, I’m pleased with the result. There may be a time when I will wish that I had gone ahead with the mesh surgery, but, as of now, I’m happy with my choice to try to strengthen my abdominal muscles and put off any surgery. And, my neighbors are happy that I have stopped playing trumpet late at night.
I’ll let you know if I change my mind and decide to get the surgery.
Namaste —
Johnin reply to: Hot yoga causing high blood pressure #10378Hi Gabrielle —
I’m still puzzled by my BP readings — sometimes they’re fabulous and sometimes they’re scary! My current practice is to try for one or two Bikram classes each week (in addition to other yoga classes) but to always check my BP and HR before and after class.
A couple weeks ago, I hydrated, packed up my half-frozen bottles of coconut water, and stopped at the pharmacy to check my readings on the way to a Bikram class — 139/71 and 64bps! I waited a few minutes, retested, and canceled my trip to the Bikram studio. After that, I was on holiday in San Francisco.
Yesterday, I packed for Bikram yoga once again and checked my readings on the way to class — 123/56 and 70bps… not at good as I’d like, but okay, I thought, as long as I would be careful not to overdue the postures, so I went to class. And, after class, I was surprised to get readings of 96/54 and 80bps…!
I don’t believe that the readings prove much about Bikram yoga increasing or decreasing BP — they’re mostly just confusing… but they do suggest to me that constant monitoring of my BP (before and after Bikram practice) is very important for my safety.
Thanks for your comments —
Johnin reply to: Hot yoga causing high blood pressure #10350Hi, again —
Only 4 days since my last post… that was reporting my first Bikram class in over 6 months, and today was my second —Today, I did an exercise class and a zumba class, and then a 30-minute sauna, all at the Wellness Center… and, feeling good, with a BP reading of 112/55, and a repeat BP reading of 98/60, with heart rates of 68 and 67 bpm, both at my usual pharmacy BP machine, I decided to try another Bikram class (in spite of the sauna)… eating lunch and trying to re-hydrate, first…
This was my FIRST time going topless!!! (not so easy for a guy who’s nearly 68)… and I wore lightweight nylon shorts over wicking-poly briefs… previously, I had always worn cotton gym shorts over cotton briefs, and a cotton tanktop, so I hoped that this would save me from the heat/humidity problems.
I performed well in the 4:30pm class — good balance, strength, flexibility and stamina — but I flagged a little in the floor series, apparently due to the loss of fluid during the sauna and my drinking of 2 liters of water/coconut water during the class (feeling a little “full” and slightly nauseous)…
The surprise was that going topless and wearing a skimpy wicking costume seemed to make very little difference!!! I was still dripping sweat during the opening breathing sequence, and I was absolutely pouring sweat during the rest of the class — much more than anyone else. The room was nearly full (30 people) and was perhaps slightly warmer, but not much different from 4 days ago.
Another surprise was that no one mentioned that I was topless! No one seemed to notice… all the other (younger) men were topless, of course… I know the instructors well and even they didn’t seem to notice it. Of course, I DID notice it — it was not nearly as much fun to look at the mirror! I believe that I’ve decided to revert to my previous costume…
As for the BP, I stopped at the same pharmacy on the way home and had a BP reading of 100/72 with a heart rate of 78 bpm.
Any thoughts?
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10346Hi Gabrielle —
Today, I returned to a Bikram class!!! the first time since August — more than 6 months!
My plan was to tell the instructor in advance that I would be modifying several poses to avoid stress on my abdomen/hernia, and that I would consciously avoid “pike” transitions (being careful to curl up and down), and that I would go really easy with the back-bends (half-moon, standing & floor bow, fixed-firm and camel.) Also, I had planned to do a modified pilates type of breathing (keeping my abs tight and breathing sideways with my chest.)
Well, as soon as class started, I totally “forgot” about all my “plans”!!! I just went ahead and did my “usual” do-it-all practice… no modifications, no conscious change of breathing… oh well!
My balance, strength, flexibility and stamina were about what they were when I stopped the hot yoga 6 months ago! I believe that shows that Elli’s instructions for machine exercises and pilates classes prepared me very well. And, my occasional traditional yoga classes helped maintain my flexibility.
What’s more significant, I seem to have no evidence of my hernia! There is no raised area and, surprisingly, there doesn’t even seem to be a softer or less firm area — my lower abdominal muscles seem to be uniformly tight! Occasionally, during the past couple weeks, I thought that I had noticed that the hernia area was a little soft and “weak”, but tonight I don’t see any evidence of that. And, I’ve been rather lazy with the machine exercises the past couple weeks…
I believe that it’s too early to claim that I’ve been cured of the hernia. I hope to continue with a mix of traditional yoga and other exercises (without any trumpet playing) to see how my abdominal muscles hold up. Because the local Bikram studio seems to be too hot for me (see my thread about high BP), I plan to do hot yoga only a couple times a week.
If there’s any change, I’ll be sure to let you know. Thanks for your encouragement —
Johnin reply to: Hot yoga causing high blood pressure #10345Hi Gabrielle —
Bikram, again!!! Yes, after a little more than 6 months without hot yoga, I finally went to a Bikram class this afternoon… and it went rather well…
As before, I’m frustrated by the variability of today’s BP readings — 139/65 (after breakfast), then 126/61, 117/70, 122/76, and 104/64 (after a Zumba class)… all today on the same automatic machine at the local pharmacy… then, after Bikram, 127/60 and 125/56… then, after a big dinner, 131/58, 95/70 (error?) and 107/63… all with pulse rates ranging from 63 to 78 (after dinner).
Obviously, I need a better way of measuring BP. The physical doctor’s office is not convenient… and the Red Cross reads my BP only every 56 days, when I donate blood.
You may say that the readings are just fine, even with today’s Bikram class, but my BP readings were nearly all under 110/x a year or two ago… and I’d like to get them back down. I’m thinking that I over-indulged the sauna (45 minutes/day) at the Wellness Center (without electrolytes) and that I need to give that a rest to see how my BP changes.
I felt good during today’s class and performed about as well as before — good balance, strength, flexibility and stamina — except for my knees… they were still sore/inflamed from the Zumba classes and my toe stand and fixed-firm pose suffered some.
I believe that my excessive sweating is unhealthy — I’m dripping sweat halfway through half-moon pose and pouring sweat through the rest of the class — considering that I’m nearly 68. Next time, I’ll try some wicking briefs/shorts and go topless, to see if that helps… but, I’m not optimistic. I had hoped that my daily 45 minutes in the sauna would have helped prepare me more…
So, I’ll wait at least a couple more days and give it another try. I’d like to go to hot yoga twice a week, mixed in with other yoga/pilates classes, but I’m afraid that the local Bikram studio is a little too hot for me!
Any more suggestions? Thanks —
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10309Hi, again —
It’s been more than 2 weeks since my last post…I’ve been a little lax with the boring machine exercises — I still fit in a couple sessions each week, but they aren’t always on the every-other-day schedule, and sometimes I cut them a little short… e.g., today…
But, I’ve been continuing the exercise classes — aqua aerobics (only occasionally), a fitness class (small dumbbells, mat and large inflated ball), pilates (mat, large inflated ball and foam roller classes), a mix of yoga classes (everything except hot yoga — vinyasa, Jivamukti, traditional hatha, inversions, etc.), and enough Zumba classes to get my knees to tell me to take a rest from Zumba. Usually 2 or 3 classes a day, followed by a long session in the sauna. And, just a few days ago, I tested my hernia site with an afternoon of digging out a tree stump with a mattock (pick axe).
Even with all this activity, it’s been SEVERAL days since I saw even the slightest indication of the hernia! The muscles seem to be more uniform — there doesn’t seem to be a weak spot, as before.
I’m enjoying my present mix of activities… without hot yoga… and I’m looking forward to a yoga workshop next weekend with Desiree Rumbaugh. (There’s also a partner yoga workshop on Valentine’s Day that would be fun, but I need a partner for that.)
Soon, I want to return to hot yoga… perhaps in another week, after the yoga workshop.
John
in reply to: Hot yoga causing high blood pressure #10307Gabrielle —
You asked earlier about any other possible causes of the BP issue. And, it just occurred to me that there is something that I could mention…
For several years, I’ve noticed symptoms that might suggest a reduction in circulation to my fingers and feet. When I’m in over-cooled A/C in the summer, my fingers may become somewhat numb. And, when I first go to bed in the winter, my feet take a very long time to warm up. And, there are perhaps some other similar symptoms when I’m in cold rooms or sleeping with my limbs in cramped positions, etc.
I’ve mentioned this to my physical doctor, but he hasn’t been much concerned… so I didn’t mention it to you earlier. Could this be related to my BP issue?
Thanks —
Johnin reply to: Hot yoga causing high blood pressure #10306Hi Gabrielle —
Yes, recently, I’ve been more concerned with my recovery from the hernia, than my BP. Since I’ve been totally omitting hot yoga, hydration hasn’t been a problem. I’ve been using exercise machines, attending fitness classes, pilates (mat, ball and roller), aqua aerobics, and Zumba classes, (sometimes 2 or 3 classes per day), and I’ve dug out a stump with a mattock (pick axe). I’ve also been to traditional yoga classes and some strenuous Jivamukti yoga (even classes with Bollywood music), but not to hot yoga.
I enjoy the sauna at the Wellness Center, and I’ve been using the sauna there several times each week… almost every day. I sweat as much as I did in the hot yoga classes, but I seem to hydrate okay with only water. The sauna is about 175F, and I enjoy 30 minutes in, with a 10 minute slow cool-down before another 15 minutes in. My body seems to handle that heat well, even without electrolytes. My BP was measured at 112/70 about a month ago (with cuff and stethoscope) when I donated blood at the Red Cross.
Yes, Gabrielle, I’m still concerned with the same BP questions about hot yoga. Soon, I plan to monitor my BP more closely and try a class at the local Bikram studio. I’ll stress my age/BP concerns (talking to the instructor before class), and I’ll try to take in a thermometer/hygrometer… but, of course, the temperature and humidity measured at the floor won’t be what I’ll be experiencing. I believe that my sauna prep may be helpful. Yes, Sara’s class in Traverse City, Michigan was not nearly as hot and humid as the local Bikram studio.
A related topic is clothing… yes, I’ve followed some threads. The people who insist on the highest temperatures and humidity are often the ones who spend $$$ on the skimpiest, wicking-fabric hot yoga costumes, perhaps so they won’t experience the heat as much!!! IMHO If they dressed as newbies or in sweatsuits or similar jogging type costumes, they could get the same benefits with less heat… and people like me would be much happier with the reduced heat? just a thought…
I still believe that the hot yoga caused my high BP scare. I want to get a clear BP baseline first, and then give the hot yoga another try… and I’ll give you a report when I do… maybe I’ll try going topless to see if it helps…
John
in reply to: unhealthy looking instructors #10268Hi Nina —
I understand your concern. I’ve practiced many schools of yoga (in dozens of yoga studios) in addition to hot yoga, and, to me, the instructor is a primary focus. I don’t expect to find a guru, in the traditional Indian sense, but I do expect to find someone who has followed the practice, appreciated the benefits of the practice, and will inspire me to follow the same practice to achieve those benefits.
If I see an unhealthy, overweight, sloppy instructor — someone who apparently doesn’t respect and take care of his/her own body — I am immediately in a negative state… those instructors will need to prove to me that they are truly dedicated and that there is a legitimate and justifiable reason that they are not what I expected. And, given that burden, a couple of instructors have surprised me and proven themselves.
I don’t believe that you should ignore your concern. You can give the instructor a chance to prove him/her self, but it is not too much for you to ask an instructor to lead by example.
The Bikram style of teaching, from my experience, does not offer much demonstration of proper form or offer (or tolerate) many modifications — it’s more about reciting a script from a raised stage, with oral instruction/criticism… not always ideal. Regardless of that, I believe that the instructor should show qualities that you would like to achieve through your own practice.
Sincerely, I hope you find inspiring instructors!
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10259Hi, Gabrielle —
So… I completed my 8-week regimen and met with the laproscopic surgeon 2 days ago.It was an informative meeting… and the doctor was more impressive than I had expected — he’s a young guy from Macon, Georgia who studied medicine at a med school founded only 20 years ago and designed to train family doctors for rural Georgia… I was puzzled why my internist referrred me to him — I don’t live in rural Georgia…
The doctor said he’s done 500 hernia repairs here, apparently 2nd most of doctors in town (most of those surgeries were by laproscope)… that my hernia was small, and a conservative “wait and see” approach was reasonable. He didn’t push me to surgery but said that he’s “fixed” hernias that are as small as mine. He didn’t think that there was much risk of an emergency if I planned to travel out of the country, etc.
I’m thinking that I’ll continue with my present progression — I continually expand to new types of classes and lots of time in the sauna (prep for hot yoga)… Pilates classes (with mat, large ball, or foam roller), fitness classes, more extreme yoga classes, and now a few Zumba classes… usually 2 or even 3 classes a day. And, I’m continuing with the 9 exercises using machines on alternate days…
I’m not sure how soon I will try to return to a Bikram class. Elli’s concern was about back bending and hip-opening — both deepened by the extreme heat of the local Bikram studio. I may be able to modify the postures (using your suggested language about “working” to get to proper form), but I’m also concerned about my unusual problem of excess sweating and rising blood pressure (another thread).
On most days, I view my result as a cure — no evidence of any hernia… but, on other days, a small vestigal sign of the hernia appears, until I press it lightly or pull in with my abdominal muscles.
Again, thanks for all your help!
Love to you —
Johnin reply to: Ab exercise ball #10235Thanks, Gabrielle!
I searched “ab exercise ball” and found the video “Flatten your tummy and strengthen your back.” The video states that your website has a link to help me find the perfect size ball for me. I couldn’t find the link, but I’m guessing that the No. 3 size you mentioned is good… assuming it’s between 7 and 9 inches, as the video suggests…
The exercise looks super! I’m not sure if I’m ready for that, yet… I’m concerned since Elli (see my Hernia post) warned me initially about leg lifts. But, she seemed to have no concern when I participated in her yoga class yesterday as she instructed alternate Boat and Canoe poses several times — the stress may be similar… I’ll ask.
Again, I really appreciate your generosity!
in reply to: Ab exercise ball #10233Ab exercise video? Do I have it as part of the Master Class package, or is it part of an email or separate purchase? I’m ready to learn new ways to use an exercise ball to strengthen my core. Thanks!
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10228Hi Gabrielle —
Only one more week of my 8-week regimen — one week from today, I’ll meet with the laproscopic surgeon to evaluate the need for surgery.
I’ve been continuing the machine exercises, as instructed by Elli, on alternate days… with the squat and lateral leg raise machines added to the original 7 exercises… two sets of each, with an extra set of forearm plank and sit-ups using the inflated ball… and some stretching.
And, I’ve been doing a water exercise class in the pool, or pilates mat or yoga classes on the alternate days… recently moving into more hardcore yoga (bird-of-paradise, revolved triangle, revolved half moon, flying crow, inversions, twists, wheel, etc.) without trying hot Bikram classes, yet.
Things are going well — my abs feel much stronger and with more control… still no pain… a little swelling occurs occasionally (perhaps every couple days) but generally isn’t noticed, and it disappears when I contract my abs a little.
Perhaps I’ve reached a plateau — if I keep away from playing high notes on my trumpet and live with an occasional superficial small raised area, I could avoid surgery? I don’t expect much change between now and next week — I’m anxious to learn what the surgeon will say —
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10154Another week… still awaiting comments from Gabrielle and all you forum members!
I met with Elli this past Monday (now it’s Saturday)… she observed my proper form and added 4 more machine exercises. I’m to continue machines for an hour (plus or minus) on alternate days, with water aerobics in the pool or yoga (still not hot yoga, and limiting back bends and hip openers) on the other days… with one day off a week.
The machine exercises are boring! The new machine exercises are a lateral leg raise for my hips, a squat machine exercise, and a leg curl machine (it hurts and feels as though I’m hyper-extending my knee, although I’m very careful), and there’s also a shoulder rotator cuff exercise using a rubber tube that Elli says I can do on the aerobics/yoga days. Since Monday, I’ve been skipping the new exercises except the squat machine. (Well, I can’t remember the details for the rotator cuff exercise accurately.)
I’m still encouraged! True, when I over-do things (e.g., water aerobics and yoga on the same day, contrary to Elli’s instructions), I occasionally feel a slight softness where the bulge of the hernia used to be… and I can push the softness back to flat… but, it’s not a big deal… and, I still haven’t experienced any pain. To be honest — I’m probably not pulling in my stomach and breathing into my side ribs as Elli instructed me to do… especially when I over-do things…
My abdominal muscles seem stronger, and Elli says that my posture has improved. I’ve returned to “normal” not hot yoga classes… but I still haven’t eliminated the 9 pounds I gained when I stopped all exercise a month ago (my metabolism went crazy then).
Next week is Christmas — Elli won’t be available to meet with me for a session, and the Wellness center will be closed for a couple days. Still, I plan to carry on, when the Wellness center is open…
And, where’s my feedback from this forum?!! Is all this attempt to avoid hernia surgery only silliness? Should I just schedule the mesh surgery and progress through physical therapy and, later, living with the mesh?
Thanks!
Johnin reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10137I had my 3rd session with Elli on Monday… it’s now Sunday, and I’ll have my 4th session with Elli tomorrow.
We met at the training room of a Wellness Center. Elli put me on the elliptical machine for a warmup, about 10 minutes, then she led me through some stretching with a rope and rubber tube before she started me on a series of 7 exercises that I’m to do 2-3 sets of 3 days a week, on alternate days.
These are the 7 exercises —
1- Sit-ups while reclined on a large, inflated exercise ball, with pelvis tucked, 15-25 times, with a series of crunches at the end… focusing on keeping my abdominals pulled in.
2- Forearm plank with forearms on the exercise ball… 10-15 breaths.
3- Chop-type side-to-side straight-arm motion pulling against a rubber tube, both sides… 50 times.
4- Straight-arm opening motion on the rowing machine with the cables crossed and arms at shoulder height… 10-15 times.
5- Wide-arm assisted pull-ups on machine… 10-15 times.
6- Pulling with straight arms, from shoulder-height in front, downward to outward-at-my-side, on a machine giving cabled resistance, the cables crossed… 10-15 times.
7- Rowing motion on the rowing machine, sitting in fixed position, pulling from straight arms in front to bent-elbows behind me… 10-15 times.On Alternate days, I was instructed to do exercise classes in the swimming pool, swim, or do a pilates mat class… or maybe a modified yoga class.
That was on Monday. Tuesday, I observed a water class. Wednesday, I did the above-prescribed routine doing the 7 exercises, the sequence 2 times. Thursday, I went to Aqua Action — a water class using foam dumbbells and foam noodles. Friday, I did the full routine with the 7 exercises, the sequence 3 times. Yesterday, I went to Aqua Action again. Today, I may try another water class.
The water classes are attended by over-weight 70-year old women… quite a change from the 20’s and 30’s of my old yoga classes!
I believe that there’s been some improvement! My metabolism and digestion seem to be more like they used to be — I hope to lose some of the 10 pounds of non-muscle that I added since I stopped my yoga practice. And, it seems less frequent that the hernia swelling is noticeable — certainly, it hasn’t become worse… and there’s still no pain.
So, I’m encouraged… not sure what Elli’s instruction will be when I meet with her tomorrow.
Do any of you have comments or suggestions?
That’s a good looking heater — would look great in a hot yoga room. But, if the thermostat tops out at 86F, the heater may be dangerous in a room heated to 95F — the materials and electrics may melt or fall apart, give off toxic fumes, damage your house wiring, cause a fire, etc., even if you don’t try to trick or replace the thermostat. Unless you want to do yoga in a room of 86F or less, I’d suggest you look for a different heater. I’m sure that better heaters are out there… and they may be much more efficient and cheaper to run. Electrical heat can be expensive, so consider a 20A circuit or even 220V. Some searching online should give you some options.
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10110Thanks, Gabrielle, for your comments —
Elli put me through some new abdominal exercises today, but she refused to give them to me as homework! Disappointing — another week of forearm plank… with only something called pendulum added today. She thinks there are so many breathing and form issues for me to get corrected that I shouldn’t try to work on the new abdominal exercises just by myself… not yet.
Over my 9+ years of yoga practice, I’ve trained myself to do wonderful slow deep breathing through my nose, and Elli wants me to exercise with shallow chest breathing with exhales through my mouth, much like blowing out a candle… keeping my stomach and lower ribs pulled in. She thinks that pilates might be a good idea, temporarily, since pilates breathing is closer to that than yoga breathing.
I want to identify the cause of the hernia so that I can omit/modify only that activity and continue with the other activities that I enjoy. If the cause is my trumpet playing, I may be able omit that and return to my vigorous yoga practice… AFTER I strengthen my abdominal muscles enough to stabilize the internal organs. There seems to be a well-known connection between trumpet playing and hernia issues.
John
Thanks for the link to Kenneth Cooper’s article.
I’m with you — I love the Bikram series but believe that many Bikram classes are too close to the heat stress mark of 150… and I believe that 95F with appropriate humidity would be ideal, especially for people with an established yoga practice and some age… the classes would be more enjoyable and safer, with the same benefits.
I have enjoyed infrared saunas that were heated above 120F, so I know that infrared heaters must be available that could easily heat a yoga room to 95F. I understand that the infrared saunas heat the body directly, through radiation, without depending on heat transfer from the air, to allow the saunas to operate at a lower temperature.
I wish you success with your home studio.
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10106It is now one week after my first session with my “holistic coach” Elli. I’ll meet with her this afternoon for more instruction. Yoga practice without back-bending and hip-opening postures wasn’t much fun, so I’ve skipped yoga classes and done only the forearm planks during the past week.
My stomach muscles seem to be getting stronger (and there’s some muscle soreness after the planks), but my body is getting soft (and out of muscle balance) and I’m concerned about potential weight gain due to the change in my metabolism. I expect that Elli will instruct me to do new exercises when I meet with her today… those exercises should help.
When I talk to people about this, the response is always the same — “you CAN’T cure a hernia through exercise”. If I’m successful with this exercise approach, I’ll be the first! I’m giving it 8 weeks, during that time I’ll try my best… but, I’ve already scheduled a consultation appointment with a surgeon immediately after that, as a Plan B.
In fairness to everyone here, I want you to know that I’m no longer convinced that my (nearly 10 years) yoga practice caused the hernia! Instead, I believe that my recent and diligent efforts to play trumpet (after nearly 50 years’ hiatus) may be the problem — too much straining to play those high notes!
If you have any suggestions, please let me hear from you!
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10080Today, I met with Elli, my new “holistic coach”, for my first session. Among other tests, she had me do a crunch-type sit-up and concluded that my abdominal muscles are strong (except for the oblique ones), but my abdominal muscles do not tuck tightly into my stomach as they should during a sit-up.
Apparently, my years of traditional yoga deep breathing, with lots of belly, encouraged a failure to keep my abdominal muscles in proper alignment. She wants me to over-correct with a flat (or recessed) stomach, which seems to limit me to more upper chest breathing than I’ve been doing. My first homework (before she trains my oblique muscles) is to do 3 sets of forearm plank, daily, with a focus on pulling in my abdominal muscles, especially the circular ones (name?) around the navel.
Another instruction was to put an array of athletic/sports tape over the hernia area before I go to a yoga class — two anchor bars and parallel strips connecting them. The idea is that I will feel the skin pulled by the tape when my abdomen is in an unhealthy position… and thereby learn which postures to modify or avoid. The posture she told me to totally avoid was any posture raising both legs straight when on my back.
So, tonight (after shaving an area I don’t normally shave), I taped up and went to a slow hatha-type Jivamukti class and cautiously worked into each posture. Immediately, I realized that ANY backbend pulled the tape — up-dog, extreme warrior I, wheel, fish, etc. — except for floor-bow… and my usual straight-leg entry to headstand had me concerned, so I modified that to a bent-knee entry.
A difficult instruction from Elli was/is to avoid/modify hip openers and hot yoga! Her thinking is that hot yoga will encourage me to go too deeply into a posture and cause damage, without realizing it at the time. I went through the Bikram postures at home with the array of athletic tape still on, and it seems that the backbend of half-moon, dancer, stick, camel, and perhaps sit-up would be the main concerns.
Every style of yoga seems to be obsessed with hip openers…!
Bottom line — I’m encouraged! Elli tells me she believes I can continue with yoga and keep the hernia from being a problem… if I do my homework! perhaps 6-8 weeks! But, she did say something about more success if I gave up yoga completely and rested (with other exercises/training) for 8 weeks…
Please let me know your thoughts! Does this seem like a good thing to try before calling the surgeons?
John
in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10075Thanks, Gabrielle —
Perhaps you are correct, that I will have no alternative and will have to have surgery and a mesh stitched across the weak/broken muscles. I’m certain that many in this Forum have resorted to similar surgery, and I hope that they will tell of their efforts to avoid the surgery and of any complications.
I expect that many here will be able to suggest which postures and which transitions are likely to aggravate the hernia and cause it to progress. Yes, I will study the Forum threads discussing hot yoga after hernia repair surgery to see if there’s any help there.
I am still hoping that someone here will be able to report that they were able to strengthen the abdominal muscles and avoid surgery, even if that meant a significant modification of their yoga practice. And, I hope that someone will be able to advise whether the stretchy athletic underwear is helpful.
Tomorrow, I will meet with Elli, the “holistic coach”. I advised her of the problem and she suggested a 1-hour appointment. I know her and don’t believe that she would suggest the appointment unless she thought that she could help — perhaps she has helped others with similar problems in the past. I’m hopeful!
Please let me hear from others in this Forum!
John
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