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in reply to: Knee pain in Tree pose #11033
Hi Rita
Woops, you replied to the post notification instead of posting on the forum. You wrote:
Yes it is in the bikram version of the tree. I try to keep my heel in the centre of my body as much as possible. Would you ever recommend maybe taking Glucosamine for a while?
You are right to try to keep the foot close to the centre of the body, but unless I am interpreting your words incorrectly, this could be aggravating your knee at the moment.
If your knee is hurting in Tree and in Pigeon, I would suggest that it could be because your lower leg is crossing the midline and causing undue pressure on your knee at the moment. I have had an issue like that last year and with careful attention I was able to return to my normal yoga. But I avoided the ankle going up to the opposite hip for a while.
While glucosamine may make a positive contribution to your body I am not sure you can cure your condition with it. I tend to think it’s an action you can tweak in your functional body movements in and out of yoga.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Knee pain in Tree pose #11032Hi Rita
So, if Tree is hurting I need to know if it is the Bikram / Hot Yoga Tree pose or another variety. Is your heel on the hip of the standing leg? Is the lower leg crossing the midline?
For pigeon I would suggest the lower leg starts under the upper leg. If that’s OK, then move it a little out from under there toward the midline. Until we get more understanding, I think no crossing of the midline with your lower leg. Have your hands there to take the weight.
If your lower back is hurting then there could be a core strength issue as well. What did you chiropractor say? I do have a free video that demonstrates a simple and fun exercise to strengthen your back. Take a look!
Let me know how you go
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Breathing v panting? #11029Hello Max
With what you say it does seem that you have a pretty good breathing capacity!
Would you be able to tell me from where the sounds emanates when you breathe? You mention you breathe through your nose. Is that also where the sound is coming from?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Epidural and Half Moon Backbend #11028Hello Rea
A backbend starts from the back. The arms are incidental. They are a minor tool and very useful. They are not the major active force. The arms actually do not pull the body back because that involves the shoulders in a way that makes the action risky and involves the neck causing tension. Please take a look at the instructions in the ‘backbend’ pose area for some detailed instructions because I would really like for you to feel safe.
If your back is hurting on the way down then bend your legs to find some extra length and take the pressure off your lower back. See if you can activate your core.
There are other things to do but let’s wait until your acute issues are managed and I can then ask you more questions.
What do you do between coming up from the backbend and going into the forward bend? Please, talk me through it.
Have you looked at the video yet? Or more importantly, have you rushed out to buy a number 3 ball? 😉
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Knee pain in Tree pose #11027Hi Rita
I hope your knee is feeling a little better over time.
For starters I would only do Tree without the binding. Can you tell me which cross legged pose you were experiencing difficulty in? And in pigeon, can you tell me please the angle your shin is to your femur? Or you could tell me if you are aligned along the length of your mat, whether your shin is parallel to the top of the mat? What angle to the top of your mat is your shin?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Bruising on chest? #11026That’s good news Allison. Hopefully your awareness of the struggling will take you in a better direction.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Feeling stress/pressure to go to class #11025Hi Jillian
Any news on the yoga front? Would love to hear how you’re going.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Ammonia smelling sweat. #11024Hi Aaron
I am also interested in seeing what Simon says! 😉 Maybe he is not getting the notification for this thread. Have you tried PMing him?
I wanted to know if eating a little closer to class might make it easier. Glucose tablets are so easy and cheap that it’s probably worth you carrying out your own experiment. If you do, please come back and report.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Distracting students #11022Hi again Allison
It is actually possible to take a break with minimum distraction and maximum focus. Granted, it may not get you a ’10’ on my artificial scale, but a well-intentioned fidget-free highly-focused break, when taken because of necessity is fine. One could still get a high 8 or 9 score personally or as a studio with that kind of culture. Something to think about. When I am in a room like that, I find it exhilarating. It’s when you feel that beautiful synergy of an excellent group experience.
Looking forward to hearing about your fellow yogini!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Epidural and Half Moon Backbend #11021Hello Rea
I believe it is very normal to experience a loss in core strength after an epidural (because that’s part of what I think may be the problem here).
There is a great exercise you can do to recover core strength and flexibility that I love. Watch this free video called Flatten Your Tummy And Strengthen Your Back!
Proper and precise set up for backbend is essential. Have a look at the posts on Half Moon and Backbend in this forum because the answers are definitely in there. Make your set up deliberate. It is not done by just putting the head in position and then going straight back. Recent personal experience in many dialog-driven classes seems to indicate that one is told to drop the head back and immediately take the arms back. If this is what you’re doing, then it would likely be inflaming the situation.
When you say you can’t “forward fold with out readjusting yourself” would you be able to please put some words to that so that I can visualise what you’re doing?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Still can't sit down #11020Hi Daniel and of course Allison
Daniel, I have some questions that I request answers for each.
>> Would you please tell me how you’re sitting? Are you sitting with knees parallel?
>> Are your heels to the sides of your hips?
>> Can you please tell me how you are holding your body up? What I mean is, that with your hips in the air above the ground, do you need to put your hands on the ground or are you hovering hands-free? Is that comfortable? Or is there a general inability to settle at that point above your heels? I can reword that if that doesn’t make sense 😉
>> Where exactly are you feeling the discomfort in your right knee? Inner, outer side, or around the patella (some people feel something behind it).Ciao for now
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Worn teeth? #11017Hi John
That’s great news. Do let us know how you get on. The appliance will work in the same way whether it’s on the top or bottom teeth. It is generally visually less obtrusive on the lower ones. Mine was on the upper jaw. You get used to them. I will be interested to find out how you feel with it in at the beginning and how long it takes to get used to it. And when it has been adjusted to give optimum results if you actually feel more comfortable with it in!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Distracting students #11015Hello Allison
I am curious about this comment the teachers: “They do this and often discuss in class”
Are you able to tell me how the subject is dealt with in class?
Is your studio a strict recital studio?Often the ‘culture’ of focus (or lack thereof) is created by the way the instructors instruct or teach. Would you be able to indicate the level of focus of the entire studio every class?
Here’s your guide: On a scale of 1-10, 10 is where there is absolute stillness. Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) moves their feet, shifts their weight, plays with their hair, adjusts a yoga outfit or a towel, only picks up a water bottle for a quick sip when and only when they need it. A 10 means a student’s eyes are on themselves only. That after a standing pose when you’re practising that in your peripheral vision you detect no ruffle or ANY fidgeting at all around the room. A 10 is a lofty goal and perhaps you can achieve that in your own practice as it is possible. But to get everyone in a room to do that is nigh impossible. A 1 would be somebody who is in the room practising their own thing with absolutely no regard for what the teacher is saying, chugging water in the middle of poses, cursing audibly when they lose balance… you get the picture. What score does the woman in question qualify for? :cheese: What’s your score?
I know this forum is very popular, but I can promise you that despite it being the most visited hot yoga forum in the world, that not everybody comes here. (Boy, I wish they would. Haha) So if you feel comfortable giving examples, that will be perfectly fine. You are a respectful person and I am absolutely positive you will share your information with respect and with high intentions.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Worn teeth? #11007Hey John :cheese:
Your idea of wearing the splint when using power tools is a very good one. Even though it seems odd to some, it can really improve your focus and concentration (and not just reduce stress). If you don’t wear it during class you can just add teeth to the conscious awareness in-the-moment checklist.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Worn teeth? #11004Hi John
Your dentist asked you that question for a very good reason. Most people grind their teeth to some degree at some stage. Either awake or asleep. It’s whether it is causing harm or excessive wear or whether it is stress-induced (and I won’t touch on all of the conditions here) that may have one feeling the effects.
If your dentist thinks you grind your teeth then you probably do. We’ll get to the mouth guard soon.
You may not believe you grind your teeth at night but how can you tell? You are asleep! 😉 I could ask you if you ever feel any signs of the grinding or clenching (say pain, discomfort in the teeth, the temporomandibular joints, the masticatory muscles which are obviously around the jaws and also the sides of the face up into the skull area proper).
Often the effects of bruxing at night are not felt but with any 2 surfaces gliding over each other there is going to be some wear.
If you’re aware of clenching in your yoga poses it is definitely possible that you are overdoing something. What that something is I don’t know and perhaps you don’t know yet either. It may be worth checking in to see when exactly you are clenching. Check into see what your body is doing. Then if you can feel that there is some source of strain or struggle in your body, or some need for you to improve a pose that is not serving you and that is causing you to strain, then fix that. It is possible there is some pushing beyond a point that is setting up stresses.
As I have always said, the only time your teeth should be touching is when you eat. They shouldn’t touch when you talk or do other activities. Sure, they could touch from time to time when you swallow or when you could be doing some kind of physical work. But for some their tongue just places pressure on the hard palate.
Just start making notes (mental or otherwise) on what you do.
Yoga should not be causing a clenching or grinding habit. Quite the opposite.
The dentist’s suggestion for that custom-made mouth guard is a good one. I call them ‘occlusal splints’. But that’s what s/he is talking about. They are carefully engineered appliances that will cause your muscles to relaz, they will reduce wear and they will also help your perform better by relieving the stresses in the jaw, lengthening and relaxing the muscles. You could actually feel fantastic as a result. It will also help translate any clenching or grinding habit into something positive.
Occlusal splints are not mouth guards per se. Well, certainly not the type one buys at the pharmacy or sports shop that protects teeth during impact sports. The one that you bought will do nothing at all for you (I am sorry to say!) except to maybe give you some awareness (as you suggested).
You may notice that some elite athletes wear occlusal splints. There are not because they grind. It is because they can actually focus better and it helps improves performance. I have written about these splints elsewhere on the forum. Use the search facility and see if the ideas fit you!
I hope that helps you! I know going to the dentist is expensive. But this grinding is in all likelihood a long term habit that is not related to your yoga. It is a problem with your practice if it is. So find out one way or the other. If the wear is appreciable and starting to lose you lots of tooth matter then I tell you that buying an ‘expensive custom made mouth guard’ every once in a while, is far less expensive than dental fillings, crowns, bridges or dentures!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Feeling stress/pressure to go to class #11001Hello Jillian and Kristin
Thank you so much Kristin. You make my life easier! 😀 hehe
So I would also like to add a couple of points:
Jillian, what you are experiencing is very similar to so many other yogis. There is the notion that one should go EVERY day. That is not feasible. It’s not smart either. One has to be easier on oneself. I believe very strongly that your body needs rest from the yoga. Just as it does from every other pursuit. I believe that people CAN go everyday. But the obligation to go everyday should never, ever be there.
If you hunt around the forum you’ll find we have talked about 60 day bikram yoga challenges at length. Even Bikram mentions to take a day off every week. But somehow 60 day challenges have become gladiatorial accomplishments where one goes every day without fail. No excuses. And furthermore, if you miss a class you have to double up. Yikes.
My belief is that a 60 day challenge is great and achievable with 6 classes per week. It allows for a day where you cannot get to class even if you had planned to. Life happens. 😉 Then on that seventh day you decide ON the day whether or not your BODY can handle it or whether it really needs rest. That way a student COULD find that they go every day, but they don’t feel obliged to go with some crazy compulsion that ignores the signs that so many students get during their 60-day-don’t-stop-til-you-drop challenges.
It won’t take long for you to find evidence of many who come here complaining of terrible fatigue, horrible pain and still they keep going.
Right! Why did I go to ALL that trouble recounting that when you are finding it hard to go more than 3 times per week? Because it’s really very similar. You are feeling the pressure to go. But it’s been based on the lore of Bikram yoga and the say-so of others. Partly!
Partly because you, me and thousands of others feel addicted to that wonderful feeling we get from practising yoga in the heat. It’s very compelling. It’s so compelling it can be guilt-inducing.
True story: I felt that way too. I was going 6-8 times per week and I was love, love, loving it. And I could not make it and sometimes felt oh so bad.
So guess what? I forced myself NOT TO GO. I decided I had to learn how to live with NOT going sometimes because I knew I wouldn’t always be able to.
It really was a wonderful lesson right from the early days of my practice.
If I could offer you additional advice to that which Kristin has graciously offered, it would be to a) find your way to turn off that switch in your head where you feel guilty. b) to recognise that if you have chronic fatigue issues, you must be even more vigilant to the signs of exhaustion, stress and body-weariness. Notice this and RESPOND to this whether it’s at home, at work or during class. At work it could be as simple as arms over head and stretching side to side with coordinated breathing to re-energise or just 5 minutes of meditation (you’ll find your formula). In class, it will be breathing, focus and also determining IN THE MOMENT without planning, if you need to skip a pose, or a set to regain your composure.
Learning to be in the moment is such a bandied about phrase. It is possible though by using your yoga, your body, your stress and your breathing to learn how.
2-3 times is a very decent practice if you listen to your body, and do the poses to the best of your ability. 7 times per week is lousy if the poses are poor and the aim is just to be in the room no matter what (and worse to push through pain and suffering and real body- or heat-exhaustion).
Do what your body and mind can handle. It is possible to beat chronic fatigue issues. You’re already learning how to navigate through. Now it’s about listening! Taking one day at a time. Each class as it comes. Each pose. Each breath. AND being OK with it. :cheese:
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Bruising on chest? #10997Hello Allison
You know, I do wonder about this as well. You’ve been doing this yoga for a long time. I imagine you haven’t noticed this before because you would likely have mentioned it. Do you have any details for me about how these bruises are distributed? Is there anything unusual about them?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Post-yoga flu symptoms #10993Hi Bailey and Guy
Thanks for posting. Bailey, do you have any comments about the heat in the room in which you practise?
Guy’s experiments to do yoga at home worked for him. Doesn’t work for everyone but it’s worth considering to test different temperature points. But first, get back to us on what you believe the temperatures and humidity levels are where you go.
Definitely try the morning class. They seem to be less humid, so the ‘multiplication’ effect of heat and humidity makes for a perception of lower heat.
Let us know how you go. You should not have to give up your love!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂Hello Mette and Jillian
Thank heaven for you Jillian! 8-/ How terrible that you Mette, got back to me straight away and then I did not respond. I had a few days back then where I was unable to post (technical glitches).
The most important thing is to know how you’re feeling right now.
Jillian, you are on the money. And you appear to have some knowledge/experience in the right places. So thank you for chiming in.
I also believe that if you, Mette, can learn to deal with the anxiety in the hot room, knowing that the environment is a safe one, you will develop the coping mechanisms to dealing with the anxiety ‘out there’.
If you’ve been keeping up your practice in the last month, you may have started to notice that the triggers are less ‘hot’. Perhaps you’ve noticed (or will notice) that sometimes what would normally trigger the feelings doesn’t work and other times it does. As Jillian suggests, the work with the breath is a big factor.
It is interesting that the anxious feelings only happen on the floor. I wonder whether that is because your coping mechanisms have a certain time limit (allowing you to get only so far in class). Or it could be a physiological trigger that has something to do with body position and or contact on the floor.
What are your thoughts or experiences considering the latest posts and the long time since you posted your responses?
My radar is out for your answer.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Tendinitis and Poses #10987Hi Walter
In order to clarify, would you be able to tell me:
>> at what times you feel pain (poses, activities)
>> exactly where you feel the pain
>> how often you’re lifting weights (are they heavy or lots of reps or ? )
>> how experienced you are at this yoga, did you have the problem when you started yoga, or do you just notice it’s worse during yoga
>> if you’re feeling any other related pains. You mention issues in half moon. Is it at the elbow or elsewhere?Please be as specific as you can be 🙂
Thanks! That should get us closer!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Advice on how to deal with new teachers #10984Hello Pamela
Just firstly straight up: That person should definitely NOT be counting in Russian (waiver, if she’s ALWAYS and ONLY ever counting in Russian). I wouldn’t mind if it were a lighthearted approach to occasionally introduce some counting in other languages sporadically but if it’s happening all the time that really is not appropriate. As you can see it’s taking you out of your practice. Is it happening to others? It would be interesting to know from fellow students.
What other feedback to you hear in the change rooms or elsewhere about the new climate?
You’re right! That would be a tough choice. You would say something to the owner of your all-time favourite cafe, if all of a sudden the quality went downhill. You are, in this case too, your studio’s customer and you really owe it to yourself and the owner to say something.
Sometimes people are wary about saying something that could be deemed unpleasant because it can put the complainer in a vulnerable or embarrassing position. Worse, it can make the ‘complainee’ feel defensive.
I remember at our first big studio where it was more than just me as the teacher, we had a number of instances that helped us shape our studio’s culture.
I had teachers from overseas too. However, the situation was that we are in a metric country and all the Bikram words are in imperial measurements. We had some complaints that the measurements had to reflect the country and culture we are in. So we changed that immediately. Sounds small, but it was not.
We had some complaints that the new teachers did not teach with the same quality that I and my friend and Robert were providing. (Which should prove that teaching is not all about ‘those particular words’.) There were specific things about new teachers using the exact same words each class.
People noticed that the good teachers give better cues for starting poses, finishing poses and for instruction within (ie not recited). We even had some people say that they objected to particular teachers using the word “guys” to give commands or compliments (‘great job guys’, ‘you guys’ etc). These people were peeved because most people who go to class are women and not ‘guys’. Many times back then, the classes were either exclusively women or had 1 or 2 men only. I think people reflected that they felt that the teacher was too much on autopilot.
All complaints and enquiries have to be taken seriously and simply LISTENED to. They are either acted upon or not. They are just someone’s opinion. But the person that steps forward is courageous and shows that they trust that they will be listened to. I believe that given in the right way, that feedback truly honours the owner of that business because of the courage it can take to come forward.
You have many great things to tell the new owner about their business and their own teaching. Surely they will appreciate your dilemma and recognise that if you’re feeling strongly enough to act that others might also be feeling similarly. They don’t want their most precious asset – their customers – to start voting with their feet (going in the wrong direction!).
What do you think? Will you go to the new owner?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Thyroid Issues #10983Hello Sejal
If you can manage a minimum of 4 classes per week working up to 6 times per week and always plan to take a day off per week, then you will get very good results much more quickly. As I always say “4 is the magic number”. If you only do 3 classes per week expect changes to be slower to be tangible.
There also tends to be a larger amount of change earlier in one’s practice. So I often recommend that new students do as many as they can in the first 2 months.
You, however, do have to alter your approach as per the earlier conversation with respect to your conditions. There is no point going ‘gung ho’ and exhausting yourself and finding that it’s all too hard or that your body cannot handle the added physiological stresses. Please tread carefully when you have specific conditions that put you in a slightly different position to the majority of other students who embark on hot yoga.
When in doubt, ask questions. Take it one step at a time, one pose, one class. Take your electrolytes. Hydrate well. And rest well.
What changes are you tracking for specifically?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Thyroid Issues #10979Hi Sejal
You’re welcome! The easy way to make sure you have enough electrolytes is to consume some good quality sea salt. Some of my research suggests 1 teaspoon a day of sea salt. Perhaps you should make sure it’s 1.5 per day for the first 2-3 weeks.
For those of you who believe in low salt diets, please know that much of that ‘belief’ is marketing-led and science is now back-peddling and saying that low salt is not healthy.
The other thing to know is that for the vast majority of people it is almost impossible to have too much salt. But one can die of too little salt (search ‘hyponatremia’). The body resets salt levels quickly if you take in too much. In your case Sejal you want to balance what will definitely be higher salt losses in the first 2 weeks (for a reference L. Armstrong “Performing in Extreme Environments”).
You can take that salt in any form: A pinch in your water (with a drop of lemon juice for taste); more on your food.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂I boomerang those blessings, Sarah
Thank you!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Thyroid Issues #10975Hello Sejal
It sounds to me as though you are in two minds. You want to do it but are justifiably fearful of what could happen given your medical history.
Would you be willing to tell me where in the world you live?
There are several things I could recommend:
The very first step you could take might be to go to class in the heat NOT to do yoga but to physiologically acclimatize your system to the heat. This is a process that your body MUST go through regardless of any physical exertion.
I think that the benefits of being in the hot room on your body would be beneficial to see if you can even handle the heat WITHOUT the exercise. You could lie there and rest, learn to breathe and focus. Heck, you can even go there to fall asleep. Your Cardiac Output (CO) will improve. You could even watch the class at times to learn techniques you would use when you start the yoga.
You see, when you start exercising in the heat (and this is true even if you just visited a hotter country) your body is not used to the heat. BUT more importantly, while your body’s systems CHANGE and adapt to work better in the heat, for those first 2-3 weeks you actually LOSE MORE SALT than when you do when you establish a regular hot yoga practice. So it’s [strong]ESSENTIAL FOR YOU[/strong] to take lots of sea salt and or electrolytes for this first 2+ weeks.
Your body will settle into a regular amount of salt loss through sweating after this time (most likely – as there are some rare exceptions which I will not go into right now). And in a regular frequent practice you would also continue to take electrolytes. For you I would take more than you think is necessary for those crucial first weeks in the heat.
One way of building stamina is to NOT do the whole class at one time. You do very minimal exercise so jumping into a 90 min class and doing the whole thing will definitely NOT be good for you. One way to approach a heated public class when you know it would not be good to do everything, is to do the second set of each pose (we usually do each pose twice, so you can do it the second time, after watching it the first time).
After a while then you could do the first set instead of the second set. And then you can introduce more and more poses that you do 2 sets of. Just build it up slowly. Don’t let your ego do more than you should.
Another way is to establish a home practice without the heat. This could be the best way to start. When you have built up stamina without the heat you could then attend a heated class and just do what you can as your body acclimatises to the heat. The yoga will do you a lot of good with or without the heat. The heat does make it even better. So at home you can heat it to the temperature you want. Public studios often heat too high and this would be dangerous for you (or indeed anyone) to turn up and over exert yourself.
Tell me what you think appeals to you the most and we can take it from there.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂 -
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