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in reply to: Grabbing the foot in Standing Bow #10858
Hi Zubin
It’s great you’ve made your way back to yoga and here for that matter! :cheese:
A couple of questions for you before I get into any techniques:
Can you describe what you are doing for Floor Bow please? Are you able to grab onto your feet? Are you using a prop such as a towel?
Can you tell me where on your foot you are managing to hold it when you are grabbing your leg from the outside? What is your arm doing? Is it straight or bent?
When you are trying to sit on your heels and there is a large gap, how are you able to stay there and go any further in the pose? What are you doing? Are your hands on the ground? Can you sit upright? Is it painful or uncomfortable? What is the position of your knees? Are your legs together or apart?
That’s it for starters.
See you soon!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Twists out for me… #10856Hi Helen
Maybe go and take a look at a size 3 ball. They are not that small. I would suggest that making sure it is NOT too hard (in other words, deflated a little) may be the answer for you. In that way you can use the ball as a platform. If it’s too hard your back would flow more around it (as this is the way you can relax your muscles and surrender to it).
I may try this with another prop and report back to you. It will be a few days before I get back to you.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: body image issues #10855Hi Kathleen
It has certainly been said that there is a dose of narcissism with the mirror-work in Bikram and hot yoga. But you know what? Whatever way you can find to learn to love yourself more is a good way. It is said to love yourself is the first step to being more loving to others. You see, yoga CAN change the world!
It also seems that to develop at least a significant amount of self-acceptance really only takes a pretty short time! With people who link their body size to their self-acceptance, it is fantastic to observe that should that person’s aim be to change body shape, that more often the body takes longer to change than the time to start appreciating the person they see in their reflection.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: depression beneficial long term? #10849Hi Tom
Welcome to the forum! Thank you so much for your post. Your question is easy to answer if not long.
First and foremost let’s deal with the concept of Yoga Credit! 😉 When you practise hot yoga regularly over time and especially if it is a number of times per week, then you develop what we like to call “yoga credit”. In other words you don’t go back to square one because you miss a few days. Quite the contrary, you seem to be able to navigate your life at the same frequency for some time (if I could put it that way) as that which you held at the time of your yoga break . This allows you (practically speaking) to take breaks from time to time. Depending on the length of break you can still return without having to reacclimatise to the heat and you could be quite close to where you were in flexibility and strength.
If you were to take a few days now you would probably just miss the yoga and be able to return and recommence where you left off.
If you had been practising at the same frequency for say, a year, it’s likely that your credit would allow you to ‘coast’ for longer without returning to as frequent a practice.
You would run out of yoga credit though after a time (cannot determine when). But suffice it to say that if your ‘barometer’ is your ability to cope with emotional tides then you would be vigilant for such changes and hot tail it back to the room! 😆
I am going out on a limb here so please understand that I don’t know any more than you write in your post. So here goes: If one were to look at one’s responses (including those that one categorises as depression) then what you seem to have noticed over 40 days at yoga is that your resilience, your ability to cope, your ability to withstand the vicissitudes of life could in fact be due to your development of new neural pathways. Hey, you could even be rewiring back to old ones!
As I was reading your post my mind flitted to a movie that, if you haven’t seen before, may be very interesting for you. Have you ever seen “What the bleep?”? If not please see it. If you have, then maybe see it again. I would love to know what resonates for you.
So for the big answer to your question: Yes I do believe that habits and behaviours you will develop or enhance doing hot yoga will help you cope with so much more than you may have before, that physiologically you will find more balance hormonally and that optimum function is within your grasp. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence of folks who give up medication, avoid surgery, feel great for no reason.
That last one is THE BIGGIE. Feeling great for no reason is where it’s at.
You must be so happy that you have already felt something like that! That’s what it appears to be in any case.
I hope you don’t mind about not going into brain chemistry. There are actually no tests for mental illnesses. Otherwise psychiatry would be a much more black and white profession. Brain chemicals are not measured so a lot of that, as far as I know is conjecture. What counts is your perceptions… Does that make sense?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Thyroid Issues #10847Hi Natasha
Yay! Yippee! You did it! Congratulations. :cheese:
It is quite common to feel some discomfort in parts of your body. It may be due to limited range of movement, it may or may not be something to do with old injuries. Your job over time will be to learn what is due to use/the way you do your poses, and what needs modification in your own technique. Technique can be a result of interpretation of instructions (wrong or right) and whether the examples around you that you could be watching and even copying are correct or not.
I know for sure that there is nobody who can learn the nuances of each pose by going once to class. There’s just too much to pay attention to. So what I am going to suggest is a number of things to look at as you continue your practice. Unless you want to I would probably not overwhelm yourself with too much right now. Look at things at your leisure. With that in mind here is a list of things to look at:
You’ll find helpful free technique videos here.
At various parts of the above page you’ll find videos that will help you with breathing, proper arm movement, posture, how the feet affect your poses from the ground up. There is also a video on a technique to use outside of class for core strengthening. You could probably keep that one for last.
If you are having lower back pain, then there is a very, very big chance there are particular poses where bending your legs will be better than doing what the script says to do (which is keep them straight no matter what). This is a particular technique you’ll find described in this hlog called Opening Up Your Hamstrings With Hot Yoga.
If you find that every class has the same words, almost identical, every single class then the above technique will be essential for you.
Of course, you have the free Hot Yoga Doctor Forum (yep, right here) if you have any questions!
Thanks so much for coming to tell us you made it to your first class. Wishing you many, many more and lots of fun and discovery on the way.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Bicep tendon tear and Morton's Neuroma #10845Hi Barb
What? That’s extraordinary! Does that mean that you have to make 2 separate appointments? One for the arm and one for the leg? I can’t imagine being only permitted to ask about one thing! Fascinating.
So I do believe you have to continue moving your arm with gentle bends and also open it up. Nothing that will cause excruciating pain. If you don’t move your arm or habitually hold it in one place then connective tissue will brace the area to protect it and make it increasingly immoveable. Instead of healthy connective tissue running along the lines of movement, with stillness the conn tissue will lay itself down in a network of cross hatching. What improves that is gentle movement and possibly gentle massage. You are the one who can work out what will best suit you in this instance.
As for your foot, I would like you to test out the concept of toe separation. Whether you do that when you’re sitting, yoga-ing or walking it is not important. What I would like to know is with varying degrees of separation (not six :cheese: ) is there any relief at all? You don’t need to go and buy anything at this stage. You could look at using some foam, some material, some tissue anything you have around the house even cotton wool. In theory the space gained should help neural transmission.
If you are still wanting to do yoga then I suggest the next step is to make 2 lists.
The first one is for the effects on the arm. List each pose in order and whether the pose is possible and what if anything you have been doing to accommodate the pose. Then do another list for the foot. You will find the English and Sanskrit names of all the poses listed on the main page of the forum. Or go to the free pose gallery that you gained access to by signing up for the forum and newsletters.Are you practising at home or in a studio? This can help me, along with the lists, work out what you can do to keep your hand in at yoga without exacerbating your issues so that you can still enjoy your yoga (or at least enjoy what it does for you 😉 ). I can but try!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Bicep tendon tear and Morton's Neuroma #10841Hi Barb
ARM: Pray tell, how did you tear your biceps? Are you allowed to and can you straighten your arm? Have you been told to bend it? Or exercise it? They must have said something more than ‘no heavy stuff’. 😉
When you say everything hurts with your arm, does that mean in and outside of yoga?
Presumably you are not to do heavy work because bending your arm is working your biceps which would exacerbate a tear. And again, straightening your arms is stretching it out. So whatever specific info you’ve been given beyond ‘don’t lift heavy stuff’ would be useful.FOOT: Apparently trying toe separation devices works for some people because it gives more room to the nerve.
Yoga and foot: When you say floor exercises are you saying that you are unable to do ANY of the standing exercises from Pranayama through to Toe Stand?
Make no assumptions! Because I cannot see you and we cannot get immediate responses to each other’s questions I may need clarification on details. Just give me as much as you can.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Bicep tendon tear and Morton's Neuroma #10838Hello Barb
Thank you very much for your lovely words. I am so pleased you are loving your book.
I need to ask you what your doctor or surgeon has told you to do or to avoid doing with your ARM. I have an idea about what you can do but I would like your guidelines first, please.
I assume that the neuroma is a definitive diagnosis. Is that correct? I believe there are a number of things in a provisional diagnoses.
It must be quite disconcerting to have limited movement and balance because of that foot. Have you been recommended surgery, ablation, or ???
What have you tried so far? Any toe separation devices? Orthotics?
What poses are you able to do with no modifications? Perhaps you could answer that question separately under subheadings of ARM and FOOT, otherwise we could get a tad confusing.
We can make the call later on if we need to make 2 separate threads, OK?
So, let’s get started :cheese:
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10837Hi Joe
That advice about Bridge pose is great stuff. It got me thinking that it may be worth trying an exercise that I have a video about, here.
I have never had occasion to recommend it for hernia sufferers before but I am confident that on the ‘dialled down’ settings with the ball lower down the spine, that you will not be risking a herniation. It would mean that as you move the ball up it would have to be in tiny increments. You would be a test case for me for hernias. It works brilliantly for people who want to build core strength (and flatten tummies).
The beauty of this exercise is that it is self-limiting. The instant the ball is too high you simply cannot lift your legs off the ground and so you have to move the ball back down. You’ll understand clearly when you see the video.
Please let me know if you think it might be of some help.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Twists out for me… #10836Hello Helen
Have I got an exercise for you? I don’t know if you have seen this video but it would definitely help you to go and get yourself a size 3 ball pronto and see this!
Sit ups are not good for you when done the ‘crunch’ way. You found that out the hard way. Let me know how you go with this new exercise.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Can yoga cause/cure a hernia? #10833Hi Joe
I read your account (lengthy and very detailed! thanks) and found myself going through a number of emotions as you went through so many twists and turns to your story. I hope too that you can manage it naturally. I am interested in the biomesh you are yet to find out about.
I too would want to avoid surgery for things that don’t need intervention. At what point will you decide (what has to happen to you, what are your factors) for you to just go and get the surgery done? I imagine having to be so conscious of how you sneeze and not let anything get the better of you by chance can be a bit risky (or put too much conscious thought into things that could be left unconscious)
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Twists out for me… #10832Hi Helen
How’s your core strength? What are you doing to improve it? Is this come up for you before, or currently with your chiropractor?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Twists out for me… #10829Hi Helen
I don’t know if I have asked you this before, but what is your ‘day job’? Does your day involve a lot of movement? Are you sedentary for long periods?
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Good news at Chiro visit! #10828Hi Helen
You’ve worked hard to get where you are. This is amazing news. :cheese:
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: stretch for vastus lateralis (outer quad) #10823Hi bunni
Great! Sounds as though you have a good variation on the classic supine twist that works exactly where you need it.
Do you take your rolling pin to class? 😛
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂Hello Marcelina
I think that what you are doing is a fine thing to do. That litre before anything I believe is essential for anybody and even for those not doing hot yoga (to have at least a couple of big glasses of water).
As for drinking small amounts through the day: I tend to avoid drinking a lot around the time that I eat. So if you’re happy on your drip-feed (hehehe) and you’re not affecting your eating or getting feelings of indigestion, then I say, just do what feels comfortable.
For people that are trying to drink a certain amount, I always recommend filling x number of bottles through the day. You’re probably doing just that. To aim to drink a minimum of 3 bottles of water on days that you practise is a great way to do it.
That’s hydration. The question of how well you are supplementing your water intake with electrolytes (in the form of sea salt or tabs or sachets) is the important consideration. It’s often forgotten as people just assume it’s hydration that is crucial. Things to ponder: Salt your food, add a pinch of sea salt to your water (I also like some lemon in there) take some kind of proprietary electrolyte product (may be expensive!). These things have to balance your sweaty hot yoga habit 😆 otherwise you’re losing crucial ions from your system in your sweat. These little oft-forgotten items are the way your systems work! Your body is like a battery and needs ions.
Looking around the forum you are likely to find posts that recommend taking water and sea salt during class or ANY activity where you exert yourself. Doing so can feel like you have switched yourself back on again. I have seen gardeners and electricians and other folk at my house doing work, flagging, about to ‘expire’. I give them a long drink of water and sea salt and lemon and they transform in front of me. Cheaper than any Name-O-Rade drink and IMO more effective.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Thyroid Issues #10816Hi Natasha
OKI! Well done! So what you need to know is (and this is just for starters) :lol::
>> The heat will be a physiological and mental challenge. You will get [strong]physiological benefits in the heated room, even if you don’t do a scrap of yoga[/strong]. So please remember that. There are no prizes for doing everything. There are great rewards however for paying attention and ‘listening’ to your body (and by implication) responding to what it’s ‘telling’ you.
[strong]2 sets of poses: [/strong]Do what you can. Because the class is comprised of 2 sets of each pose, you will do one set and then another of the same pose. Amazingly, while it feels challenging during a pose or a set, because you get a small break between poses you WILL actually feel fine to do another set with similar energy that you did the first! Just pace yourself. You are coming back!
>> If you do feel a little off in any way and can’t do something or have run out of puff and really cannot go on, then just stop, stand, look at yourself in the mirror and breathe. Looking around to see what others are doing is fine in your first few classes. Otherwise focus is what you are cultivating.
If you still can’t handle standing there and breathing, waiting to rejoin class then the next stage is kneeling, chest up, eyes forward and yes, you guessed it, breathing!
If you still can’t handle that, then lie down. And this is what I honestly tell my students. Try, try just to stand or kneel because if you lie down it really is harder to get back up again! :cheese:
>> [strong]Your body will physiologically acclimatize to the heat over a period of 2 – 3 weeks.[/strong] Even on your first day your Cardiac Output (CO) will improve. You will grow your breath over days, months and years. So allow it to be a [strong]process over time[/strong].
Fascinatingly, your body actually [strong]LOSES more salt[/strong] (electrolytes) in this 2-3 week acclimatization period than once settled so this tip will help you enormously. Use sea salt on your food if you don’t already. During this acclimatization time I would actually suggest you put a pinch of sea salt in your water that you take to class. (Flavour it with lemon juice if you must.) If you don’t want to use sea salt then by all means use a commercial electrolyte tablet or sachet before and or after class.
>> I don’t know what kind of studio you’ll be going to. There are some that will say “don’t drink during class” or “don’t xxx or yyy” for things that you, as an adult should be able to make up your own mind about. So if you need to drink, just do so. Wait for a time between poses so you can keep your focus.
>> [strong]Don’t wipe your sweat[/strong] because it cools your body. It’s an important mechanism. [Otherwise your body will overheat.]
>> It’s OK when you start to wipe your hands on your towel/gear if your grip is too slippery. You won’t need to do so for a long time. It’s OK to wipe sweat from your eyes if they’re stinging.
>> If you have a friend or if you can ask the teacher, get a demo and quick 3 min coaching session of Pranayama (the first breathing exercise) before you start class. It’s a challenge to do just by listening to the words. You’ll thank me for this. I show ALL new beginners how to do this before their first class. You can’t look around during this exercise.
If I think of anything else, I will let you know.
Oh, the other thing I show folks is what it means to ‘lock the knee’ because you are asked to do that a lot.
Dems mostly what I talk about for a new student. 😉 The rest of the stuff you might read around the forum verges on “TMI” ‘too much information’ for me. I am the type of person who doesn’t want to know ALL about everyone else’s experiences because I want to have my own. Also for me, knowing too much about whether this person felt one way or another can sometimes negatively impact simply through the mere suggestion.
Hopefully that gives you some guidelines. These are things that all students should be told. It should be interesting to know what your ‘orientation’ is like.
Have fun!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Thyroid Issues #10814Hello Natasha
Thanks for joining us! What can I say but … Give it a go!
My suggestion would be to go more often than once per week. For a real try at this I would see if you can try, even if it is only temporary, to go 4 to 6 times per week for 8 weeks. Six days per week would be a maximum allowing one day’s rest per week. Four classes seems to be where the magic starts to happen (fast!).
Your mission … hehehe … is to work out what you’re prepared to do to give it a better than fair chance (!) of working for you.
There is plenty of free information on this website (and through this website free and otherwise) that will help you enormously. IMHO you need much less about the experience you may expect to encounter (tiny bit) and as you start quite a bit of technique assistance. [What others experienced is less important for you than knowing about hydration, electrolytes and heat and some other considerations.]
So… first decide whether or WHEN 😉 you want to make the commitment and we/I can point you in the right direction if you request or require it. You may have friends who are with you to assist. So just ask for what you need.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂Hi John
You’re right! The body will react to create some stability. Stability doesn’t care if the pose is right or wrong. It’s about self-preservation. 😉
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Pain in knee #10810Hi Holly
So pleased you saw a physio.
What I would like to recommend is for you to read this blog post about bending the legs in certain poses where you have been instructed to keep them straight.
See if you can apply the same technique to all the Paschimottanasana poses and sit up. Check out the book for the appropriate pose.
There is a problem with many Bikram yogis. That is, that they cannot engage quadriceps without firing the hamstrings as well. Well done for noticing that. It comes from the insistence of locking EVERYTHING indiscriminately. Some people then somehow override their ability to selectively engage. Your awareness around this will help enormously.
As in most questions there is not a black and white answer: So regarding quads and hamstrings, it also depends on what you’re doing at the time of quadriceps engagement. If you’re sitting on the ground then it is possible to have quads engaged with relaxation of the hamstrings. However when you’re standing your hamstrings will at least PARTIALLY engage in order to KEEP you standing. They are involved in balance. So, notice whether your hamstrings are solidly engaged or not. 😆 There are some things that are black and white… 😉
Other tips: Avoid excruciating pain in every case. Perhaps see if the twisting action in Tree pose should be avoided too. Methinks don’t go into toe stand.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂Hi John
Nothing EVER should be dangerous in a yoga studio. So that in and of itself should answer your question. If it’s dangerous while ‘your legs get stronger by learning how not to slip’ then that is still absolutely no reason to FORCE people to stand on the dangerous substance. Mats are there for a purpose. To define the space. To provide safety. They are 2 big reasons. There are others.
I believe that nobody would lose affiliation status because they decided to turn on their mats. What I think is that it’s a sign of adults unable to make sound decisions for their own lives and businesses and making what I believe (and obviously you do too) to be bad decisions in terms of the safety of their students.
Such a decision smacks of fear not of good business.
To have sound footing is imperative. If you do not have this pose right you could slide a little on a mat too. Mats for hot yoga are designed to create traction. If a mat is slippery then a towel is placed over it. But the risk of ripping muscles or compromising one’s body and practice and literally overriding the protective mechanisms of the body is sheer madness.
If you are strong enough in the legs to prevent slipping then you can ‘settle in’ to the hips in a way that creates more strength and more flexibility. HOWEVER if your pose is weighted incorrectly through the hips, OR the feet, possibly favouring one side of the body more than the other (in a number of criteria and planes) OR if your arms are positioned wrongly against the legs OR even if, as many people do not fit the scripted instruction to have their fingers in a certain scripted relationship to the floor, then your body will not support a proper Triangle pose. By the way, the majority of students do have a weight distribution issue and or place the arms incorrectly. The best way to surrender, to be attuned to your body’s safety signs is to actually start on that mat.
That’s aside from the fact that the mat provides a defined space for practice that is uniquely YOURS and upon which nobody else impinges.
To have adults subjugating reasonableness to a dogmatic so-called mythical rule (or litigious leader) is craziness. The irrationality is resounding. One needs to ask “WHY?”. Why does one have to straddle the mat? It’s not to strengthen the muscles. It comes from having to [strong]face the mirror. If your studio has mirrors on 3 walls then there is no reason at all NOT to turn for those 3 poses.[/strong]
Phew. Off my soapbox now :cheese:
Hey, if you need another reason it’s this: SWEAT. When you turn on a mat there are less cleaning bills for a studio. The sweat – 95% of the time – lands on the mat and towel and the STUDENT takes it away with them and cleans it up.
A studio that insists on students sweating on their carpet will pay in cleaning bills. I know of countless folk who will not go to a Bikram studio because the place literally stinks. It is hard to keep a sweaty carpet clean. Maybe you can appeal to them that way! 😉
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Hip pop followed by groin pain #10808Hi Kathryn
Going to see somebody is always a good idea. They may be able to provide exercises for you to rehab that particular area.
Here are some specifics for the poses you mentioned:
For triangle, please consult the book at page 151, bottom right. You can start to gingerly step the feet apart. Start with stepping out half as wide. That’s literally THE width of your mat. The lunge is 4ft give or take an inch. This means that the lunge can be very, very shallow and you can start to ease into that feeling in the hips and groin gently, slowly, over time. None of these postures are ‘all-or-none’. You don’t have to go for the lunge ‘full tilt’. What will keep your balance is to make sure ARM POSITION is optimal. That means NO REACHING FOR THE FLOOR.
I assume you mean: Standing Head to Knee. Is that right? 😉 If so, you can try the mod on top left of page 118. Stand near a wall if you need to.
Balancing stick you can simply do what the photo shows on top left of page 134. Lift the back toe up or not. But just stand with energised arms and legs, arched spine. If that feels good then you can start to pivot at the hip a few degrees at a time to a point where you feel safe.
Let me know your progress
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Extreme Tiredness: 30 Day Challenge #10807Hi Devi
For starters please go and look at the blog post: Opening Up Your Hamstrings With Hot Yoga! It is sure to point you in the right direction. You might also like to ensure that you take electrolytes… Sometimes I put sea salt in my water with some lemon juice during class.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Lower back pain should i stop? #10806Hello Athena
That’s great news. When you go back to the hot room, although it can help reduce any recurrence of problems, it’s really not specific enough to simply ‘take it easy’. What I would like to recommend is set up your poses with precision and pay attention to all that you do. There are plenty of specific hints, tips and techniques right here on the forum.
Perhaps take a look at technique of particular poses. Look at Backbend (particularly set up), and all the ‘paschimottanasana’ poses and sit up. Use the forum. Also go and see this blog post: Opening Up Your Hamstrings With Hot Yoga. While the title suggests it is about your hamstrings, this particular issue is HUGE in your practice. Follow the instructions and you will continue to protect your back and reduce risk.
The only thing I really need to ask you is this: The title of the thread you started said “lower back pain” yet in your post you said it was “middle back” that is the issue. Both respond to different techniques. The info above is not specific to mid back issues but more to lower back and the connection with legs. While mid back will benefit there are other things one can do!
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂in reply to: Terse Major #10804Hi Tanna
I would be remiss if I didn’t ask you why your Teres (notice spelling) Major muscle is in such pain. Can you tell me what activity is causing this problem?
It’s possible that it has something to do with your practice or your posture. It is best to know some details there.
As far as stretches go there are some simple ones to do. You may know about the one where you lift an arm over your head, bend that arm so that your hand is behind your neck. Take the other hand and pull on the first arm’s elbow. Pull the elbow inward to the midline of the body.
That’s an easy one.
I am sure that there must be something that you can do on a habitual level that could stop this happening to you.
Bunni’s idea of massage with a ball is a good one. I like to use size 3 basket or soccer balls for back muscle relief. The harder the ball, the smaller the ball the more intense the intervention. So if it’s very painful go for a larger of balls (size 3 is great). And make sure it is not too hard. Release a little air if you have to.
More ideas right here if you need ’em! :cheese: or if better directions for how to use a ball if that’s the way you want to go.
Namaste
Gabrielle 🙂 -
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