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  • robatronic
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    Thanks Gabrielle.

    I think I’m coming to the conclusion that I should avoid certain teachers… or at least, bring a more open, less goal oriented attitude when I come to class on the hot days.

    Since the last dramatic post I left here, I’ve had two really good classes, and since I’ve been so curious, I asked what the stats were after each time. The good days seem to track with lower humidity in the room. And there’s the kicker. The humidity definitely brings more of a challenge, and I’m a bit reactive to it since it seems the more humid conditions are associated with certain teachers. So my mind is relating the “terrible conditions” to “uncompassionate teachers.” And when I dwell in that, I get angry, because “they are doing this terrible thing to me.” … hA! they know I hate the extra heat, so I guess I take it personally to a degree. The anger thing keeps coming up for me… my reactivity, really… so the yogi in me wants to work through it. Also, I tend to overdraw my emotional and physical bank accounts. So I’m also working on keeping more grounded.

    I should really say here that, despite my roller-coaster attitude towards this whole thing, I really am grateful to be here. Also, over the last year and 4 months, I’ve grown a lot. I really need to show a bit more gratitude for the yoga, the studio and the process. It’s nice to see myself go through this stuff sometimes. I feel like I’m smoothing out the wrinkles, so to speak. Growing pains.

    And as a way to unveil part of my underlying issue… I decided to stop taking pharmaceuticals earlier this year. That’s also been a bit of a process… mind you, the meds I was taking were for anxiety(clonazepam) and sleep (ambien), with some narcotic pain killers mixed in. Alcohol has also been a large part of that equation.

    It’s been over 5 weeks since my last pill. Withdrawal has been a son of a b**ch, and I’ve been going it alone. There has definitely been some rebound anxiety, but the worst of it has been doing away with the oxycodone. Of course I’m having headaches. Of course I’m getting angry. Of course I think it’s too hot…. My body has been readjusting… and I guess I’m not sure how long that will take. In my time with the oxy, I would feel like I was through with the physical w/d after something like a week… but I feel like it might be taking longer than I EXPECTED to come back to baseline without the peaks and valleys. That’s about when I started accusing the teachers of keeping it too hot.

    In all honesty, I’m glad they saw through my temper-tantrums about the heat. I could be here without my yoga glow… thinking that the yoga was going to kill me, when I’ve been trying to do the same for so long.

    I know this won’t be my last episode, so I’m just going to take this one day at a time, and never give up.

    Again, I really appreciate this space. You’re a great mirror, Gabrielle.

    robatronic
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    why do i feel so lost with something that should be helping me find the way?

    robatronic
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    An update:

    The headaches have calmed down during class it seems, and I’ve had a few really nice classes in the interim here.

    However, it seems like some teachers at my studio insist on making it as hot and humid as possible. I don’t see the point in that. I had a very bad class last night.

    Every class is challenging enough without the passive-aggressive peer pressure competition to see who can teach the toughest class. I really wish some teachers would get off their high podium, and act like human beings. I’m left with a feeling that some teachers lack the requisite amount of COMPASSION to be an effective Bikram teacher. The dogma and the no-holds-barred approach is a bit disgusting.

    I’ve asked for my money back, but one teacher, who I really trust, convinced me to keep coming.

    I asked the teacher who taught last night what the humidity was, and she said that it was “about 48% but only 105F.” Really? ONLY 105F at 48% humidity?

    I wish these teachers would stop drinking the kool-aid and come back down to reality where things like RELATIVE HEAT INDEX are a serious SERIOUS F***ing issue.

    damn it! i want my damn money back.

    robatronic
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    Last night after posting this, I had a similar conclusion. I’m upset because I want to do yoga more than I can really sustain a Bikram practice. It’s frustrating because yeah…I paid a lot of money for something I can’t use the way I want to. (is that ego or what? … i can’t figure out why i want to do it every day. i guess because it used to make me feel so good. why do i want to do yoga, ALL OF THE TIME?!?) I’m slightly obsessed it seems. Me and yoga might look a little co-dependent. I just don’t want to break up with yoga. I dearly want to find out how to heal and optimize this relationship.

    >> Can you tell me if this is the only heated yoga studio in your area? (If there are have you visited?)

    I live in Seattle. There’s a few other non-bikram Hot Yoga studios that I haven’t been to. I know Baron Baptise Power Vinyasa isn’t heated, but I want to give that a go. They keep the studio “warm.”

    I’ve been to other Bikram studios though. One in Minnesota, and one in Eugene, Oregon. They were both cooler than my home studio. And I’m with you on this one… I really don’t see the use of temperatures above 104F, and I’m of the mind that the relative heat index should be seriously considered. Some of the teachers, I feel, are needlessly punishing with the heat. Last week, for instance, I took a class where a handful of classmates were on the ground, and I counted at least 4 people who left the room. That says to me that it’s too hot. I’ve complained, but of course the teachers get the best brain scrubbing… so they met my complaints with less than compassionate responses. Most of the teachers seem to blindly follow their leader. I don’t feel compassion in the room. I’m not happy about that either. Here in Seattle, they say the discomfort is indicative of growth. Me? I say that you don’t need the heat so hot to create the type of discomfort that’s going to result in progress. What a rip off.

    >> Next can you tell me if your sweat stings your eyes?

    Not usually. If I skip a few days and go back, it might be a little salty-stingy… Or if I don’t wash my hair product out well enough. I don’t think my sweat stings, but maybe a little bit though. I’m curious what it would mean since a teacher actually dropped the comment last week in class that “if the sweat stings your eyes, you can change that by adjusting your body pH.”

    >> Have you been taking the sea salt, or just continuing with the electrolytes you mentioned before?

    YES! the pink Himalayan sea salt! I’ve been putting 1/2 tsp in each of the 1L bottles I bring to class, along with a bit of maple syrup and lemon juice. It’s the most wonderful thing in the world to drink. (Sometimes I think I might be doing Bikram just to chug my awesome lemon aid.)

    >> If it’s just been the electrolytes have you upped the dose? (Or just added the sea salt!)

    I’ve been taking Trace Minerals Electrolyte Stamina, not the full dose though. I’m a bit suspect of combo-pills since I’m not fully aware of what everything is for. L-taurine has me a little weirded out since that’s the stuff they put in energy drinks and what not. I’m not a big fan of anything too activating beyond my one morning cup of coffee.

    >>On the subject of pee! Is it clear all the time? Or pale or straw coloured?

    My pee is usually clear to pale yellow through the day, but more yellow after class for sure.

    Thank you again for being so CLEAR, and awesomely helpful. I look forward to your response.

    robatronic
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    Well- Lately I’ve been coming out of class pretty angry. I think I’m over doing it again. I almost think that this yoga is exacerbating some depression.

    I did 5 classes last week, but couldn’t make it to my Friday class on account of being completely pooped out. So I rested Friday, and didn’t practice again until Monday (yesterday)… and I ended up just getting pissed off (general feeling of anger towards the world) by bow. And it’s been bad… like I’m still upset.

    I guess there are other things in my life that I’m unhappy about besides how f**king hot they keep it at my studio (for no good god damn reason), but this damn yoga was what kept me alive the past year. And now, I feel like it’s pushing be back over the edge.

    I don’t get why I even do it anymore if it just makes me feel like I want to die. It gives me headaches, makes me frustrated, and is alienating me from the rest of my life. I feel like I want to back down to every other day, or maybe just 3X a week… but when I bought a package I bought a year unlimited, and when I told them I wanted my money back, they talked me back in through “all the benefits” brainwashing part.

    It’s bullshit, but I’m so addicted I’m in a catch 22. I don’t see benefits of doing this yoga anymore. It seems like completely useless schlock like the rest of this material shit.

    robatronic
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    This issue has turned out to be more of a windfall than I could have ever imagined.

    I think my biggest issue was over doing it. Heat stress, and the massive amount of electrolyte laden sweat my body produces ultimately left me drained and depleted after 30 consecutive days. The headache was definitely a loud and clear symptom of what was going on, but I tend to ignore pain rather than listen to it.

    Yes, I’ve added the pink himalayan sea salt to my diet. I’ve also backed off on my Bikram a little bit. Instead of 7 days a week, I think I’m better off at 4-5-6/week range… I’m trying not to take it [em]quite[/em] so seriously.

    The studio I go to is very challenging, and I feel like it might be a bit too hot in general. However, over the past year of regular practice, I’ve made so many gains that I feel it’s worth it in the end.

    I found my yoga buzz again, so I must be back on track.

    Thank you for this forum, and thank you for your time with my problem.
    Venting and reflecting are really helpful sometimes.

    robatronic
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    I guess other signs of something wrong would be my frustration about the situation.
    I used to feel SO GREAT after class, and I haven’t really been getting that lately.

    [strong]• Are you drinking during class or avoiding water?[/strong]

    I do drink during class. Here is what I bring:
    I bring 2 x 1L nalgene bottles with the juice from 1 lemon split between the two 1L bottles. I also add 1 tablespoon of Grade B maple syrup (split between the two, so 1/2 tablespoon per Liter). I freeze the juice/syrup in about 500mL and add water on top of that once I get to the studio, so it ends up being dilute at first but stronger later on. I usually only drink from one bottle during class, and use the other as recovery, unless it’s a really packed/intense class in which case I’ll probably dip into the second.
    I’ve imagined that part of the problem could be that I might be drinking too much water. Either in class, or in general. Headaches are a sign of overhydration/hyponatremia: “Symptoms of hyponatremia include nausea and vomiting, headache, confusion, lethargy, fatigue, appetite loss, restlessness and irritability, muscle weakness, spasms, or cramps, seizures, and decreased consciousness or coma.” However, I’m not convinced it’s a hydration issue since I do take trace mineral electrolyte tablets and my pee is generally clear, and I’m going regularly enough to think that it’s more on the side of hyponatremia than dehydration. So maybe I’m not getting enough salts.

    [strong]• Are you aware of palpitations in your heart?
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    My heartbeat seems normal. It’s usually trying to leap out of my chest by the end of second set of balancing stick, but nothing abnormal given the level of intensity. I ride my bike to work about 3x a week (20mins each way) and I lift weights in the gym 3x a week as well. Okay, so I over do it. I think this headache thing is definitely related, but it didn’t come up like this last time I did a 30 day stint. I got emotional and a little unstable feeling, but that was without the headaches. I figured it was a part of the growing process.

    [strong]• Are you feeling weak?[/strong]

    In class? Sometimes… like after a really strong set of triangle, sometimes I get wobbly and need to lay the second set out. Sometimes when I give a good push, I get lightheaded. I’m definitely more likely to wilt like a sad old flower if it’s a HOT packed class. Out of class, there’s been some lethargy associated with this overexertion…

    [strong]• Are you feeling any tingling anywhere?[/strong]

    Not anymore. I used to come out of class a sparkly, tingly, superstar.
    But in all seriousness, no tingly sensations that would probably be associated with nerve damage or anything like that. No. None of that.

    [strong]• What is the temperature in the studio? Do you actually know?[/strong]

    When I asked on a day I felt it was super super HOT, she said it was 106F. They say they keep it in a range from around 104-107, but they let it dip if humidity is high and it’s a packed class. From what I’ve read on here, Gabrielle, you feel that the upper limit should be 105F. I’m on your side.

    I had a period a couple months ago where I was cramping up in class. I started to be more mindful of my electrolyte intake at that point, and the cramps went away.

    [strong]• Does it feel overwhelmingly hot?[/strong]

    Yes. But I thought that was part of the practice. The studio I go to has heated floors… so floor series gets really hot. Maybe that’s normal in other studios too…

    [strong]• Are you or were you and EVERYBODY else able to get through a class without collapsing on the floor?[/strong]

    Collapsing seems a strong way to put it, but there’s regularly people taking savasana during class. There’s definitely other people who need to rest as well, so I’m not alone on that. I don’t usually mind sitting a set out, it’s just when the headache is the reason that it’s been getting to me.

    I love this damn yoga so much, I just don’t want it to hurt me.
    thank you for your time.

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